S02E23: Ponyville Confidential

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Post by Mr. Big (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:44 am

I think they also used that font in the Mare-Do-Well cover.

So is there a rule that written English can't actually be shown? The only exception I can think of is "Welcome Princess Celest" sign from Swarm of the Century.
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Post by Aurora (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:16 am

Jim Romantic wrote:I just poured through the whole thread, and didn't see dibs on this called, so may I have an av of Chubby Pony with his fez on reading and then stopping and looking about? The cut to seeing him just made the episode for me. Also, I am very easily amused.


Fits already got that.

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Post by Jonathan Apple (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:21 am

Really liked this episode. Favorite bits were fat kid with a fez and Big Mac and Applejack role reversals. Honestly though, I thought that the CMC were actually going to do a story about the embarrassing photos of themselves as some part of their apology or something, but I'm not complaining.

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Post by Tzar469 (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:28 am

What were the metal bits in Twilight's tail at the spa?
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Post by Ransom (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:30 am

Fun episode, if for nothing else than the callbacks. Not much original to add, liked the letter as resolution rather than the revenge route, and yeah, it does seem like a scene with Featherweight revealing DT's extreme actions to Cheerilee was cut for time, it just goes from DT threatening blackmail to her getting ousted. You do have to wonder what Teacher was doing while the whole town going gaga over the school newspaper. Did she only think to intervene when the issue was brought to her attention? :memories:

Bah, it's one of those questions that doesn't bug me too much though. The rest of the story is tight.
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Post by Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:31 am

It's fun to imagine that everything that happened in the episode was engineered by Featherweight to maneuver himself into the editor's chair. :tinfoil:

Scuderia Ferrarity wrote:Missed opportunity for Luna. I'd have her eating a half gallon of ice cream.

Lord knows they referenced damn near everyone else in the show today, but maybe it's just as well Luna was left alone. It's hard to picture her accepting libel gracefully.

"We decree that these disrespectful 'news-papers' be cancelled ... FOREVER!" [lightning bolt]

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They get used in pony ads a lot as eyecatchers.

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But anyway, who do you suppose this is? Early photo of the oft-mentioned Namby Pamby?
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Post by weedgoku (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:36 am

Tzar469 wrote:What were the metal bits in Twilight's tail at the spa?


Twilight is just a decade or two behind the hottest fashion trends :gonkity:
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Post by MochaBean (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:54 am

Tzar469 wrote:What were the metal bits in Twilight's tail at the spa?


They're hair foils. You use them when you want to isolate some hair from the rest of the head for a treatment, usually to add streaks or highlights.

Which begs the question: Is Twilight's pink streak fake?!

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Post by Whitenoise Poster (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:15 am

When all the ponies are crazy colors the idea of some of them using dyes to be even more colorful (or in the mayors case, less) is really funny to me.
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Post by Pink Himalayan Salt (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:28 am

Super Karoru wrote:Meanwhile, Cheerilee was zoned out the entire time until the end. Or she just sat back and watched the chaos reign. :iamapony:


Someone stick the sound from this into a clip of Cheerliee thanks.

Lazy wrote:Called it back on page 1 yo. :pinkieshrug:


You fucking fucker.

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Wayoshi wrote:Image


or this

Wayoshi wrote:Image


with a zoom effect of closeups of each pony's face and Spike's face.
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Post by Ramarren (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:49 am

MochaBean wrote:Which begs the question: Is Twilight's pink streak fake?!


Or maybe it is not just a different colour, but of hair type different enough to require different care, at least at spa treatment level.
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Post by itinerant nomad (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:22 am

This was a fun episode for me. There was no great crisis, but a lot of opportunities for individual characters to show some extra texture.

I laughed out loud when the picture of Big Mac and Smarty Pants was revealed. His switching places with Applerjack was a nice chance to show that his economy of speech is not due to a poverty of thoughts, but a reserve that takes serious motivation to get past.
Also, props for the extra touch on Rainbow Dash's spa experience. The way the gag with her hoof complex played out added a touch of tension and showed a bit of a vulnerability or hangup coming from an unusual direction for her.

The newspaper's print structure is kind of neat. To add variety, they flip the first letter, but this rule is negated when the second word is reversed. Also, the letter E is oddly flexible, sometimes dropping parts of itself or merging with the nearest vertical or near-vertical letter.

Headless Horse wrote:[*]"Twilight Sparkle: I Was a Canterlot Snob!" And here we dig back as far as Episode 1 for character-arc inspiration, not to mention some nice worldbuilding detail ("muddy roads and low-class rubes"). So much hidden character development to be dug out of this scene: Twilight now knows how far she's come and is pretty ashamed of the flaws she used to have (because let's face it, this would have been a pretty hard-hitting factual story, huh? Especially if told by Spike, her put-upon lackey back in Canterlot).


This one sounds like a fabrication after Gabby Gums had truly gone off the rails. I don't think Twilight ever had that kind of attitude, and the selection of that picture fits the general idea of a tabloid hit piece using a photo of her in the middle of a yawn or at the onset of a sneeze.


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Sure make a joke that guys'll have to think about.
Oh God this is so surreal.

There's a reason why Pinkie was soaking in the tub. Per "A Friend in Deed", her hoofacures require two of those, and it creeps the other five right out.

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"Celestia Just Like Us"
What does it MEEEEEEEEEAN? Does she occasionally order up two XXL sized cakes and pig out on them? Does she binge? Does she get frosting on her face?

I think it's interesting to use this gag. Celestia is the character with the greatest store of dignity in the series, so the payoff of taking her down even a fraction of a peg is low-hanging fruit. That has to be handled with care because of her role as a wise, nurturing, and a little mysterious background figure. Taking her down a full peg is in effect badmouthing every pony's mother.

A passage from Spike's diary:
Rarity, I like you like Celestia likes cake.



Going by the way the typewriters work in this series, I have the text of the final Gabby Gums article.

To the citizens of Ponyville:
010001100110111101110010 01110011011011110110110101100101 01110100011010010110110101100101 01101110011011110111011100101100 011110010110111101110101001001110111011001100101 01100010011001010110010101101110 01110010011001010110000101100100011010010110111001100111 01110100011010000110100101110011 011000110110111101101100011101010110110101101110
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Post by Aurora (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:26 am

Here are the av stuffs! viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1311
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Post by Timall (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:38 am

Oh man, such a great episode. They've really been on a roll lately.

When Applejack said 'yup' and 'nope' I KNEW Big Mac was going to have something to say at last. So great.
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Post by Wildfire (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:40 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Image


Didn't even realize that's who it was when I first watched it.
Ok that's it. DT is at the top of my shit list Image (Didn't think anyone would knock Gilda from the top spot).
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Post by Kanthulhu (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:22 pm

Loved this episode. Top notch quality. Season 2 is really ending on a high note regarding quality of the episodes.
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Post by Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:27 pm

W.T. Fits wrote:... And now I have a mental image of Celestia playing that song on Rock Band. (Both guitar and vocals, using a headset mic so that her hooves are free to play the guitar.)


Oh but surely. 'Tis Luna who is the gamer (in fanon). :sheepish:

The stuff they're doing with the font is pretty interesting—it's kinda playing on the fact that you can rearrange letters in a sentence and as long as the first and last letters are the same, you can usually understand what it's saying just fine.

In most cases up till now they've hand-lettered signs and headlines and posters and things (SIHOVI, Daring Do, Spike's signature), making them just close enough to English to give the right visual "ping", but not actually reading as English if you look closely. But in this episode so much of it has to do with printed text that they had to come up with a new technique, or else all that text would have gotten to be a huge pain to hand-draw. Solution: use regular fonts, just flip random letters around. The word forms stay the same, but they can't be said to be readable English anymore.

Pretty neat solution if you ask me, though it does underscore just how fast they're plowing through the work on these things.
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Post by Treehouse Censor (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:34 pm

I liked the episode, but something about that spa scene rubs me the wrong way. To put it bluntly, I felt uncomfortable watching it. It really felt like something I shouldn't have seen.

Also, Twilight was looking pretty damn awkward in that scene too. I loved the cucumber bit though with RD.

E: I just finished a second watch in HD. I don't feel quite the same on repeat viewings, but I guess it's just kinda jarring at first you know? I still think Twilight looks awkward as hell in that scene though.
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Post by Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:48 pm

1080p:

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:cheese:

(First time we're seeing Celestia's tongue, isn't it? ...Talk about things we shouldn't be seeing...)
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Post by The Doctor (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:55 pm

Headless Horse wrote:1080p:

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:cheese:



Darn foaltoshop.
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Post by Nissl (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:37 pm

One picture I don't think I've seen yet. Is this a new background? Something about the way Canterlot looks off in the distance really speaks to me.

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Post by Smoke (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:11 pm

The Doctor wrote:
Darn foaltoshop.


And here it is unfoaltoshopped:
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Post by Crunchy (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:41 pm

I just noticed a thing

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Scootaloo should try to get her cutiemark in balloon animaling.
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Post by The Flour Moth (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:51 pm

Crunchy wrote:I just noticed a thing

Scootaloo should try to get her cutiemark in balloon animaling.


I also like the poster of Nyandash on the wall.
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Post by Jim Romantic (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:56 pm

Chunky wrote:
Fits already got that.


Well poop, I must have missed that. My apologies.
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Post by Daionus The 23rd (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:05 pm

Crunchy wrote:I just noticed a thing

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:gonkity: oh god i must have blocked that out of my brain
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Post by Magoop (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:07 pm

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Does anyone know what the equation is on the chalkboard? What are they teaching their children? XD
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Post by Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:10 pm

Nissl wrote:One picture I don't think I've seen yet. Is this a new background? Something about the way Canterlot looks off in the distance really speaks to me.

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I just stuck this one over in the 1080p capture thread.

Damn I love how good they are at depicting background landscapes with muted, washed-out colors, like distance fog. It's so... un-cartoony, somehow.
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Post by Crow (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:39 pm

I loved the little scene where Spike gets his cucumber slice back from Rainbow Dash. :gotcha:
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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:53 pm

Yeah I snapped that full Ponyville with Canterlot and put it in the album, but I somehow neglected to caption it here. :facehoof: I also noticed Canterlot seemed to be a new thing.

So... have we come to a conclusion on Fluttershy's tail extensions? It's a completely slanderous lie that deserves no further attention going forward, right? :modesty: :nngh:
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Post by Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:01 pm

She's only so devastated because she can't handle being made the subject of such personal scrutiny by the public. Not because they've found out any horrible secret she's trying to keep under wraps.

Yeah, that's pretty watertight.
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Post by Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:03 pm

Wayoshi wrote:So... have we come to a conclusion on Fluttershy's tail extensions? It's a completely slanderous lie that deserves no further attention going forward, right?


"I don't remember getting tail extensions, but they printed it in the paper and I certainly don't want to disagree. I must have forgotten. I'm sorry." :fluttersmith:
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Post by Pink Himalayan Salt (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:27 pm

Wildfire wrote:
Didn't even realize that's who it was when I first watched it.
Ok that's it. DT is at the top of my shit list Image (Didn't think anyone would knock Gilda from the top spot).


...Who is that pony? :rariwhat:

Crunchy wrote:I just noticed a thing

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holy moley
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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:59 pm

This deserves to be here in addition to ponies.gif thread:

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Post by Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:01 pm

So apparently this is a thing now:

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When a young pegasus flaps her wings (which she'll do out of nervousness or excitement, like the one watching Fluttershy getting ready to take off last week), she does it in dragonfly mode.

BZZZZZZZZZ

:awesomedash:
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Post by The Doctor (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:08 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Yeah I snapped that full Ponyville with Canterlot and put it in the album, but I somehow neglected to caption it here. :facehoof: I also noticed Canterlot seemed to be a new thing.

So... have we come to a conclusion on Fluttershy's tail extensions? It's a completely slanderous lie that deserves no further attention going forward, right? :modesty: :nngh:


I think it's a lie. In GIYC, we find out that Fluttershy needs nothing to look great, she just goes to the spa to hang with Rarity.
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Post by Crow (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:15 pm

Headless Horse wrote:So apparently this is a thing now:

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When a young pegasus flaps her wings (which she'll do out of nervousness or excitement, like the one watching Fluttershy getting ready to take off last week), she does it in dragonfly mode.

BZZZZZZZZZ

:awesomedash:


That scene was so d'awwwwwwww. :allears:
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Post by Scuderia Ferrarity (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:18 pm

Pink Himalayan Salt wrote:
...Who is that pony? :rariwhat:



holy moley

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Post by Coyote (?) » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:30 pm

just saw this on a Chilean board (I emphasize that because the kid is Papelucho who is the protagonist of an old popular children's book series, I don't know how known its outside the country so I felt the necessity to tell that :pinkieshrug: )

dunno if a reference but hot damn they are so similar :starity:

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