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(?) · by **Rainbow Crash** (?) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:21 pm

Casual Viewing wrote:So I guess none of you are Neverhood fans.

You disappoint me.

I noticed it, but it's also the top comment on youtube, so figured most other people got it as well :pinkieshrug:

I love that game

(?) · by **Casual Viewing** (?) » Tue May 01, 2012 5:07 am

Rainbow Crash wrote:I noticed it, but it's also the top comment on youtube, so figured most other people got it as well

I love that game

We can be friends then.

Also I never read Youtube comments, only Ponygoon posts. I'm a connoisseur you could say. :vogue:

(?) · by **jaybud4** (?) » Tue May 01, 2012 8:45 pm

okan170 wrote:

Click here to view video.

Little ponies' tears and a mercurial crowbar :v:

Is it wrong of me that I find the butchering of the wording completely hilarious?

(?) · by **okan170** (?) » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:23 pm

According to Jenny's Tumblr, episode 7 is to be screened/released at their Bronycon Saturday panel! :-D

(?) · by **CorpusCavernosum** (?) » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:11 pm

okan170 wrote:According to Jenny's Tumblr, episode 7 is to be screened/released at their Bronycon Saturday panel!

I was thinking they'd do something like that. I was hoping that summer would result in faster output, but I guess not. The extra wait is horrible but I'm sure the end result will be worth it... my stepson keeps asking me if a new FiW has come out. I tell him no and ask if he wants to watch FiM instead. Then he runs out of the room screaming "nooooooo!"

(?) · by **Paperback Writer** (?) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:44 am

At last, some news. It seems like it's been forever since the last one.

(?) · by **Perrydotto** (?) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:54 pm

As it turns out I'm rooming with Jenny for Bronycon. It's a small fandom! :pinkietoot:

Are there any infos yet regarding what episode they're gonna spoof or is it gonna be a surprise?

(?) · by **Grue** (?) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:11 pm

Last Roundup. Even though I remember they specifically said they weren't going to do this one (as well as Party of One) in one of the interviews. But "plans have changed" I guess.

(?) · by **Mighty Nail** (?) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:50 am

Well... um... to derail the music derail... :flutterdear:

I was originally here to maybe chortle about Rarity's Art of the Mattress song (because it absolutely kills me every time, and I don't care how stupid I look when admitting to it) and just say something about how I liek teh series and teh voices, yet I ended up reading all 12 pages of incredibly deep insight. You people blow my mind. :psygum:

I honestly don't have much to add in terms of fantastic theories about the plot and/or meaning behind the series itself, but I do have a few questions.

So why does Luna say that Twi's cosplay is plusgood? Obviously this is a nod to 1984, but why on god's green earth make a reference to 1984? Maybe I'm just getting too wrapped up in the details, but I've always been taught that every detail should be treated as intentional by the maker when it comes to interpretive pieces like this. I mean, there is the whole idea of corresponding messages between Orwell's novel and FiW about the horror of people and how they'll do anything in their struggle for/to keep power, but I feel like that's a bit of a stretch for a tiny, one-time thing from the horribly awkward character who hasn't made any previous appearance.
Maybe there's another kind of reference being made that I'm not aware of. I'm not the most pop-culturally adept person out there.

Also, this surrealism is crazy, mannnnn. I'm still at the stage where I'm kinda grasping the plot and how all the characters fit together, but I love Sweetiebot. And I know I'm kinda late on this, so ignore it if you will, I just had to put the question out there: why can I not shake that weird feeling every time a character supposedly unwittingly alludes to Sweetie being a robot? It just seems very out of place for the FiW writers who are so good at being subtle. The audience already knows that she's a robot, I can't imagine at this point that these unwitting comments are just for the laugh value. On the other hand I can't really see a twist where everyone reveals that they know Sweetiebot is a robot, because that would destroy the essence of the characters and the base values they represent, but I'm also not the writers. They could easily do another twist in a complete :starity:

moment.
Then again... I could just be... overthinking...

(?) · by **SlateSlabrock** (?) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:05 am

Mighty Nail wrote:why can I not shake that weird feeling every time a character supposedly unwittingly alludes to Sweetie being a robot? It just seems very out of place for the FiW writers who are so good at being subtle. The audience already knows that she's a robot, I can't imagine at this point that these unwitting comments are just for the laugh value.

She's not a robot. Robots don't have souls. :rainbert:

(?) · by **PhoolCat** (?) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:48 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:She's not a robot. Robots don't have souls.

So she's a Cyborg, then? :smirk:

(?) · by **Grue** (?) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:20 am

I think Rarity knows Sweetie is a robot, as do her parents obviously. Rarity can't let Sweetie know she's a robot because she will go on an existential rampage, and can't let anyone else know because they will call the robot police. So she can play along when Sweetie accuses Rarity of being a robot, instead of saying NO U. And it also explains subtle robot jokes she makes at Sweetie's expense.

(?) · by **Deffon** (?) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:23 pm

I'm not so sure about that. Rarity and Sweetie Belle almost crossed the sentient scanner, and it was dumb luck that Sweetie Belle didn't want to cross it when Applebloom encouraged her to.
I think it's open to interpretation, and as long as they don't actually show that Sweetie Belle is most certainly a robot, it always will be.

On the one hand, everypony could be incredibly thick, and just not understand why Sweetie Belle is having a robot voice, says robot things, has robot vision, or falls down stairs like a slinky.
On the other hand, who are we to say that these things make her a robot? Maybe she's just incredibly akward. We (the viewers) are the only ones who've noticied anything weird about her, so maybe these things are pretty common for ponies?
Rarity could be a robot, and it's interesting to see Swetie Belle reasoning. What if she's right? Is Sweetie Belle acting more like a sentient being than Rarity? You don't need all those bleeps and bloops to be a robot, you know?

In the end, it's one of those things that shouldn't be revealed, because it would ruin the magic, and they creators know it.

I'm looking forward to more Sweetie Bot development in the future. It's my second most favorite plot point, right after Fluttershy's cult.

(?) · by **thatbastardken** (?) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:23 pm

Rarity, and by extension Ponyville, do not know that Sweetie Belle is a robot. How could they, when they can not see the hollow shells of ponies they themselves are? Rarity seems mechanical to a machine because all real emotion has been ground out of her by her wartime experience, leaving only a shattered mess of a pony who takes acting lessons to try and pretend she can feel emotion again behind. Rarity has to fake loving her (robot) sister, because her army "family" were killed when she botched a scouting mission, and she's become incapable of loving again.

:gonkity:

(?) · by **Daionus The 23rd** (?) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:36 pm

This unexplained war also gave her "Post Traumatic Dress Disorder", which is why she is so obsessed with giant hats.

(?) · by **diribigal** (?) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:00 pm

Deffon wrote:What if she's right? Is Sweetie Belle acting more like a sentient being than Rarity? You don't need all those bleeps and bloops to be a robot, you know?

In the end, it's one of those things that shouldn't be revealed, because it would ruin the magic, and they creators know it.

I could have sworn I was part of a discussion about this, but I think it was in real life, rather than in this thread. Basically, Sherclop Pones has been extremely careful to set things up to be consistent with the reveal "Sweetie Belle is not artificial and Rarity is" (although it's also consistent with the more boring "Sweetie Belle is artificial and Rarity isn't" possibility). However, as Deffon points out, I'm not sure if revealing either one would actually add anything to the story.

(?) · by **Paperback Writer** (?) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:09 pm

I'd rather they just left it unexplained. It doesn't really matter to the loose overall "story" of the series which one is a robot, and people will be disappointed no matter which option they pick. If Sweetie Belle is the robot, then people will say it's predictable, and if Rarity is the robot, people will say, "Oh, Sweetie knew all along. I should've seen it coming."

It's better to just leave it up to people's imaginations. In any case, Sweetie Belle has the most "soul" of any of the characters, and she's probably my favorite FiW character just for that.

(?) · by **Daionus The 23rd** (?) » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:20 am

What about Spike? He comes close.

Also I like how the third "not horrrible" character, Newt Pippington Bri'ishhooves learns a twisted lesson that mocks standard cartoon lessons in episode 5 ("Don't be nice to the creep! Gawk at her so you forget your own shortcomings!").

(?) · by **Grue** (?) » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:42 am

diribigal wrote:Basically, Sherclop Pones has been extremely careful to set things up to be consistent with the reveal "Sweetie Belle is not artificial and Rarity is"

No, he most certainly didn't. Pretty much everything involving Sweetie Belle is a robot cliche, and there's no evidence to suspect Rarity of being a robot whatsoever. I don't understand how people unironically think this switcheroo is possible. And I believe it was "jossed" at some point, but I'm not going to search for it.

(?) · by **thatbastardken** (?) » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:48 am

The point is not who is or isn't a robot, the point is the dehumanization (deponization?) of the cast to the point that the debate is even possible. The society they live in makes automatons of them all, and even an actual machine seems more empathic than the lifeforms around her.

(?) · by **diribigal** (?) » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:08 pm

Grue wrote:Pretty much everything involving Sweetie Belle is a robot cliche

I think thatbastardken is right on the money. They seemed to be really pushing Sweetie Belle to be ironically the most human from an emotional standpoint. No one else in the show has really shown the love/compassion(/jealousy?) that Sweetie Belle has.

and there's no evidence to suspect Rarity of being a robot whatsoever.

Well, I really think they at least toy with the idea, with scenes like "If I were a robot, could I do this?" and "one egg per sentient lifeform". I admit I don't have the best imagination for this sort of thing, but I can't think of another reason to add either of these things if that wasn't their intention.

I don't understand how people unironically think this switcheroo is possible.

Even if you feel differently/can change my mind, I hope I've cleared up how this (mis)conception is possible.

And I believe it was "jossed" at some point, but I'm not going to search for it.

I had to look up that term, but if this means something like "one of the two people behind Sherclop Pones said Sweetie Belle is a robot in some interview", then ok, there I go.

Grue wrote:No, he most certainly didn't.

As an aside, the the Sherclop Pones OC idea is still weird to me, which I imagine is the point.

(?) · by **Daionus The 23rd** (?) » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:08 pm

How can you seriously think that Sweetie ISN'T a robot? Robot vision, robot noises, getting messed up in the water, etc. There's NOTHING that says "Sweetie is not a robot".

(?) · by **diribigal** (?) » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:38 pm

Daionus The 23rd wrote:How can you seriously think that Sweetie ISN'T a robot?

Firstly, let me be clear. I fully recognize this is a surrealist/comedy thing made one episode at a time. There doesn't have to be a single truth (in the sense that Sherclop Pones can want Sweetie to be a robot one day and not to be a robot another and not care a third, etc.). My contention isn't even close to "Sweetie isn't is a robot. Period."

Daionus The 23rd wrote:Robot vision, robot noises, getting messed up in the water, etc. There's NOTHING that says "Sweetie is not a robot".

I tried to say this in my previous post, but to reiterate once: Sweetie seems more empathetic than most of the cast. And I thought those two scenes involving Rarity were toying with the idea of Rarity being a robot. That's it.

If they weren't toying with that idea at all and there's a completely different explanation for those scenes, then that's fine; I've been wrong before. :pinkieshrug:

(?) · by **SlateSlabrock** (?) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:42 am

It's terrifying how many little things I only notice after watching these episodes several times. Today's observation: Twilight calls AJ [KIWI}sack when she's asking for help with Luna.

Daionus The 23rd wrote:How can you seriously think that Sweetie ISN'T a robot? Robot vision, robot noises, getting messed up in the water, etc. There's NOTHING that says "Sweetie is not a robot".

Perhaps cyborgs also speak and whir like robots and see in robo-vision. Cheerilee says robots are incapable of feeling love, which isn't true for Sweetie Belle but might be true for Rarity. Or maybe ponies are just really unobservant.

(?) · by **numsOic** (?) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:15 pm

Maybe the "incapable of feeling love" thing is an incorrect stereotype by organic-ist ponies.

(?) · by **Davyinatoga** (?) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:22 pm

I think the FiW ponies' sense of love is just as fake as all the other positive emotions. So perhaps Sweetie Bot's fine attenuation to what real sisterly love is would be considered "untrue" and thus inorganic.

Also, Sherclop Pones be trollin' viewers. Simple enough. :gotcha:

(?) · by **kidcoelacanth** (?) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:04 pm

The robot is the only character able to feel compassion and not be a terrible person. That is the joke.

(?) · by **Casual Viewing** (?) » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:31 pm

The ponies in FiW could learn a lot about compassion if only they asked Sweetie-Bot, but they'd have to be careful not to provoke the young filly into an existential rampage.

(?) · by **Daionus The 23rd** (?) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:27 am

That would require them to care about it.

(?) · by **kefkafloyd** (?) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:36 pm

We're going to be doing an interview with SherclopPones for the front page. If you guys have any questions or things you'd like to ask them, please say so. :yay:

(?) · by **Daionus The 23rd** (?) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:01 pm

Is there a plan to how the episodes will go, or are you just doing whatever?

(?) · by **Headless Horse** (?) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:38 pm

Or do you "have a plan" in the BSG sense? :-P

(?) · by **Stuntwoman** (?) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:10 pm

What's your favourite character?

(?) · by **Herr General** (?) » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:22 pm

Chimicherry or cherrychanga?

I prefer cherrycherry.

(?) · by **Durandal** (?) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:44 am

Here's one I've been wondering:

How do you deal with the problem of being constricted by your own canon as you go along? Looking at the series overall, it's apparent that it started out just being offbeat and silly (Gypsy Pie, Cult Leader Fluttershy, etc), which later episodes then had to build off while still creating more new ideas. Don't get me wrong, I think it's been wonderfully executed so far - I just wonder if you ever feel limited in this little alternate universe you're building, in the sense of "oh yeah, Twilight's supposed to be an alicorn the next time she's onscreen, crap how do we do that?".

(?) · by **reidransom** (?) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:32 pm

And speaking of, they're supposed to be releasing their new one today some time, right?

(?) · by **Baron Porkface** (?) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:51 pm

Right after Lauren.

(?) · by **CorpusCavernosum** (?) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:11 pm

It's already up on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_f6pDBkNlo

(?) · by **Stuff** (?) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:11 pm

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it's up it's up it's up!!!

edit: damn it, beaten!

(?) · by **Daionus The 23rd** (?) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:22 pm

It had some funny bits, but honestly, I found it lacking.

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