[AVs] S2E25-26 A-canter-lot of Av Threading

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[AVs] S2E25-26 A-canter-lot of Av Threading

Post by Aurora (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:20 am

Av Requests

Smoke - Twilight's smugface near the end of the episode
Glaed - Pinkie using Twilight like a Machine Gun
Ragnar34 - Rar going MINE with the bouquet
reidransom - Flutters with her hair all pretty like
Crow - Flutterling rolling its eyes and morphing into Pinkie during the Main 6 v Swarmlings battle
Herr General - Dash's sonic rainboom (why)
Grue - Chrysalis avatar when she reveals her true form
HuffyTheMagicDragon - Applejack putting on her hat after glancing at Rarity near the end of the episode
OpposingFarce - Twilight shoving Applejack's hat in her face
Chaos Sonic - Twilight's pose as she says "Mi Amore Cadenza" during the picnic
All Out of Nickels - that shot of Rarity falling over at the start when she hear that Twilight's brother is the captain of the Royal guards just focusing on Fluttershy moving "Back and forth"
Gravenstein - Twi + talking sandwich
Mr. Big - Pinkie and Spike playing with the cake toppers
FightingDreamer - Twilight's facial expression as she realizes Cadence really does love Shining Armor during "This Day Aria"
Damathacus - that close up clip of Chrysalis when she looks out of the castle window and sings line "This day has been just perfect"
jqnexx - dancing Luna
Discord - the mane 6 all sending a Changeling flying in various poses
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Post by Chaos Sonic (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:27 am

Missed mine, just a couple posts above yours in the episode thread.

Chaos Sonic wrote:I'm gonna go ahead and put in my avatar request before someone else takes it. I'd like Twilight's pose here as she says "Mi Amore Cadenza" please.
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Post by All Out Of Nickels (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:28 am

All Out Of Nickels wrote:Could I have a "Tracking shot" of Fluttershy at 1:25 in a loop please? (Is this even possible? I thought I saw something from Hurricane Fluttershy where it tracked Flutts being carryed) Thanks again!

Cheers!
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Post by Crow (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:34 am

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Post by Aurora (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:47 am

All Out Of Nickels wrote:Cheers!


Is this the first part? Also try to be more descriptive of what you want when requesting because generally I can't do exact times with the way I put frames into Photoshop.
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Post by All Out Of Nickels (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:52 am

Chunky wrote:
Is this the first part? Also try to be more descriptive of what you want when requesting because generally I can't do exact times with the way I put frames into Photoshop.


Well its that shot of Rarity falling over at the start when she hear that Twilight's brother is the captain of the Royal guards just focusing on Fluttershy moving "Back and forth" Thanks again.
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Post by Herr General (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:37 am

Chunky wrote:Herr General - Dash's sonic rainboom (why)


Why not? :allears:
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Post by londonarbuckle (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:13 am

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Post by Mr. Big (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:15 pm

Pinkie and Spike playing with the cake toppers. NOW KISS!
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Post by FightingDreamer (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:26 pm

Can I have Twilight's facial expression as she realizes Cadence really does love Shining Armor during "This Day Aria"?
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Post by Damathacus (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:36 pm

I'm not sure how well it's going to turn into avatar, but if it turns out ok I would like that close up clip of Chrysalis around 33:58-34:02, when she looks out of the castle window and sings line "This day has been just perfect".
I just love that piece of animation for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HsixRtMKUCk#t=2037s
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Post by jqnexx (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:51 pm

I'd like dancing Luna please :awesomedash:
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Post by Durandal (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:29 pm

Me and my fiance are going to have to take these:

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Post by SolarisKnight (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:42 pm

I'm genuinely suprised nobody took Pinkie's Party Cannon yet :yay:
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Post by Artificer (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:18 pm

Durandal wrote:Me and my fiance are going to have to take these:


Congrats on getting a fiance, then! :allears:
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Post by jaybud4 (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:44 pm

Just posting to point out that this one is mine.
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I made and called it out way back when we got the preview clip that showed it, so...
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Post by Durandal (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:52 pm

jaybud4 wrote:Just posting to point out that this one is mine.
:v:
I made and called it out way back when we got the preview clip that showed it, so...


You and Glaed may have to work that one out....
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Post by jerrylee (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:56 pm

If I could get something of Twilight's grimacing speech and hoof-waving at about here (without the sandwich, please) that would be great!
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Post by numsOic (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:29 pm

jaybud4 wrote:Just posting to point out that this one is mine.
:v:
I made and called it out way back when we got the preview clip that showed it, so...

It could stand to be remade, frankly.
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Post by Glaed (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:45 pm

Damnit D: I called it within 20 seconds of it actually airing!

Buttt... Hey someone surprise me with something cool involving Celestia and/or Luna and I'll be fine.
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Post by Discord (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:03 pm

SolarisKnight wrote:I'm genuinely suprised nobody took Pinkie's Party Cannon yet :yay:


Actually I did in the episode thread, top of page 13.

But I'd like to expand it to the montage of the mane 6 all sending a Changeling flying in various poses, if possible and not taken already.
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Post by Aurora (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:12 pm

jaybud4 wrote:Just posting to point out that this one is mine.
:v:
I made and called it out way back when we got the preview clip that showed it, so...


Didn't Kefka tell you you couldn't do that? Glaed pretty much gets priority here.

Also, jerrylee, your request overlaps with Gravenstein's.
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Post by kefkafloyd (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:32 pm

There is no requesting of anything for preview clips or before the show airs. That is not fair to people who avoid spoilers. Any claims made before the time the thing actually showed up on TV are null and void. This has been explained several times. That av should be Glaed's.
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Post by numsOic (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:48 pm

Aight some avs

jerrylee, SolarisKnight, jqnexx, Damathacus (this one was impossible to keep intact so I had to make a shortish loop)
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Chunky wrote:Also, jerrylee, your request overlaps with Gravenstein's.

Whoops, didn't see that. But one of them wants the sandwich and the other doesn't. :rariwhat:
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Post by jerrylee (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:59 pm

^^^ He can have it (unless it doesn't have enough sandwich for him).

Chunky wrote:Also, jerrylee, your request overlaps with Gravenstein's.


I'm sorry, I didn't see it in either the OP or the thread at the time I made my request. :fluttersmith:
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Post by Grue (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:40 pm

I decided to make my av myself, though it isn't perfect yet. I'll probably try to make a longer 15-color version later.
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Post by numsOic (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:56 pm

Don't bother, 15 colors looks like shit. That one's already stretching it.
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Post by Grue (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:17 pm

Maybe I'm going for that retro 16-bit look. :v:
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Post by numsOic (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:32 pm

They make up for it by being creative with what colors they use to replace the ones they don't have and the use of techniques such as dithering. Just generating a custom palette of 15 colors doesn't make it look retro.
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Post by jqnexx (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:11 pm

Thanks. Can't seem to change avatars on iPad though.
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Post by Damathacus (?) » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:13 pm

numsOic wrote:Aight some avs

jerrylee, SolarisKnight, jqnexx, Damathacus (this one was impossible to keep intact so I had to make a shortish loop)


Yeah I thought that it might be bit too complicated to get into avatar format nicely, thanks for a good try.

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I tried making one myself, I managed to remove the panning of shot, but even after I removed over half of the frames it was way too much to fit into 75KB. It was not even close, it was somewhere around 250KB with 50 colors.

I then tried making small loop like you but I don't have any idea what kind of gypsy magic you use to get so many frame to fit into that 75KB limit.

This was best I could manage to fit into that limit:
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Post by DarkMatter (?) » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:23 am

I think I might want an av of Queen Chrysalis but I'm not sure of what. :allears: I'll just wait for any "free for anyone to use" avs and maybe take one of those.
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Post by numsOic (?) » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:52 am

Damathacus wrote:This was best I could manage to fit into that limit:
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To begin with, you didn't even optimize it. That same avatar with optimization and no other changes yields 66.3 KiB for me.
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Post by Stuff (?) » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:56 am

Man, she looks so freaky.

I just realized this type of thread won't be happening again for a while. :fluttersmith:

So I just want to say thanks for completing those avatars I've requested back then. :v:
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Post by Damathacus (?) » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:06 am

numsOic wrote:To begin with, you didn't even optimize it. That same avatar with optimization and no other changes yields 66.3 KiB for me.


I didn't mean to offend you, I honestly have no idea how you manage to do some stuff you do. I want to learn though, so I'm curious how did you optimize that avatar?
All I do for optimization is select Save For Web from Photoshop then check settings for dither, transparency etc, and then just reduce color palate until it's just under 75KB. After that I use Gif Movie Gear to check timings and just save it.

Do you use some other tool to optimize them or something like that?
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Post by numsOic (?) » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:22 am

Don't worry, you didn't offend me or anything. I was just pointing out the most obvious fixable thing.

I use Gifsicle, but you already use GIF Movie Maker, which has optimization capabilities in Animation > Optimize. You'll want every option ticked. Most of the time, Gifsicle will give smaller results, so that's what I use.

GIF Movie Maker is relatively good at color reduction when locking colors (i.e. intentionally keeping one or more specific colors for the final palette), at least when it doesn't involve dithering, so with your current process you can save your avatar at 125x125 as a .psd file from Photoshop and then open it in GIF Movie Maker. Remember to activate 24-bit color at Edit > Preferences > Export > Maintain 24-Bit Color. You'll have to play around with the palette size. Save only after you've optimized it and it's the desired filesize, since for some reason GMM erases the undo history upon saving.

Other tips: reduce the number of frames as much as possible while keeping the action readable, and cut the area of change from one frame to another as much as possible (so the frame is cropped more after optimization, thus making it smaller).
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Post by Damathacus (?) » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:52 am

numsOic wrote:Don't worry, you didn't offend me or anything. I was just pointing out the most obvious fixable thing.

I use Gifsicle, but you already use GIF Movie Maker, which has optimization capabilities in Animation > Optimize. You'll want every option ticked. Most of the time, Gifsicle will give smaller results, so that's what I use.

GIF Movie Maker is relatively good at color reduction when locking colors (i.e. intentionally keeping one or more specific colors for the final palette), at least when it doesn't involve dithering, so with your current process you can save your avatar at 125x125 as a .psd file from Photoshop and then open it in GIF Movie Maker. Remember to activate 24-bit color at Edit > Preferences > Export > Maintain 24-Bit Color. You'll have to play around with the palette size. Save only after you've optimized it and it's the desired filesize, since for some reason GMM erases the undo history upon saving.

Other tips: reduce the number of frames as much as possible while keeping the action readable, and cut the area of change from one frame to another as much as possible (so the frame is cropped more after optimization, thus making it smaller).


Nice thanks. GIF Movie Maker's optimization didn't do really anything, but Gifsicle did cut it down to 66KB after I learned how to use it. :awesomedash:
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Post by numsOic (?) » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:06 am

Like I said, you have to tick every box in the optimization dialogue. But if you're using gifsicle already then go for it. Just use -O3.
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Post by shotgunbadger (?) » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:10 am

I can't pick an AV so I'm gonna be a Changeling and scavenge around for whatever avs people whip up and don't get used.
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Post by jqnexx (?) » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:14 pm

EDIT: Moved to next page.
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