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Post by kidcoelacanth (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:37 pm

Season 2's biggest failing was a critical lack of Gummy.
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Post by ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:50 pm

To make up for such a loss, Gummy will be in every episode of Season 3. :-P
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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:52 pm

I want the Pinkie-Fluts ep to be in Las Pegasus (which will somehow be accessible to non-pegasi still, work with me). :party:
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Post by Plobo (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:54 pm

I never actually liked Pinkie Pie. When she shows up just to do something silly, why not. But Pinkie-focused episodes... FPK was fine, Party of One, meh...
And then I remember A Friend in Deed... and I'm all with Cranky in there. Pinkie really needs to learn where's the limit, the situation there was FUBAR, if the deus ex machina with Matilda didn't happen, Pinkie would be in some serious problems.

And the Rainbow Dash x Fluttershy relationship... I always felt like RD just needed a friend, so she made one. Fluttershy owed her a lot (as in the flying school) and welcomed her "protection", while RD needed some company - because she "hates being alone." :saddash:
It isn't like that nowadays, although I still feel like RD wants a friend, that will always be there, no matter what - and she knows Fluttershy wouldn't turn her down. RD is sometimes annoyed by her behaviour (no wonder, since they're pretty much opposites), but still wakes her up for the cider, because - yet again - she wants someone she knows to be there with her, even though Fluttershy doesn't seem to care much about cider. (That just reminded me of Pinkie's selfishness, as she wants everyone to give her a smile and see them beam and then buys half of the cider that Apple family made, and then even talks about it, because fuck you, I was here first and I have no empathy. :rainbert:) Or how RD sacrifices herself and goes to see the butterflies with Fluttershy - because she wants her to be her...ohgodhowdoIsayitI'mnotgoodinEnglish... safety friend? You know, the type of friend that will always be your friend no matter what even if everyone else is pissed at you.
But, as seen in Mysterious Mare Do Well episode, she isn't her safety friend anymore, as she did turn her down (because she developed and isn't such a pushover as in the flying school anymore) and participated in the MMDW as she did the fly-by. So RD goes out with her more, to reassure her position.

It's a late response, but don't blame me, blame the time-zones.
And maybe some of this is bullshit and I wouldn't even be surprised, because I haven't seen any episode in a long time. I probably made some shit up there - because I have two classmates who have this exact kind of relationship.
And also sorry if it's hard to read, composition was never my forte.
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Post by Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:09 pm

I always enjoy the discussions about who's better friends with whom, and it's a credit to the show that such discussions are possible. I think in a crappier show, the relationships of the Mane Six would be this homogeneous, undifferentiated mass of friendship. You know, everyone gets along with everyone equally well, and it's all interchangeable except when you need to make Characters A and B disagree in order to have a plot.

FIM doesn't go that route. Every pair of ponies has their own dynamic. Each pony has a different style of friendship with each of the other five: they bond over different interests, they support or annoy or tear each other down differently, and sometimes these dynamics grow and change over time. Just like they should in a good TV show. These varied relationships are also why team gang tags exist and are meaningful. So we have that, too.

kidcoelacanth wrote:Season 2's biggest failing was a critical lack of Gummy.

He will be back, when he is least expected. It is the Way of Gummy.
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Post by DarkMatter (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:12 pm

I still want a :dreamworks: :-P episode. I mean, that tackle hug Fluttershy gave Pinkie in Over a Barrel has to mean something, right? Let's explore their friendship!

Other episodes I want to see:
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Post by Bag of Magic Food (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:24 pm

Plobo wrote:That just reminded me of Pinkie's selfishness, as she wants everyone to give her a smile and see them beam and then buys half of the cider that Apple family made, and then even talks about it, because fuck you, I was here first and I have no empathy.

I caught this photo of Pinkie at the Comic Con.
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Post by Discord (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm

Hey, for all we know, Pinkie was getting that cider for people who couldn't make it to the line for the first day of Cider season due to other commitments :pinkieshrug:

Actually that would be pretty in character for her.
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Post by Grilox (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:23 pm

Episodes I want to see:

:pcstare: :pcstare:
:gotcha: :gotcha:
:pcstare: :gotcha:
:gotcha: :pcstare:

Get to work on these episodes, Mr. FIM team!
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Post by Headless Horse (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:25 pm

You know how they say "don't meet your heroes"?

:gotcha:
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Post by Grilox (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:26 pm

Headless Horse wrote:You know how they say "don't meet your heroes"?

:gotcha:


You know how they say "Princess Celestia is the exception to this rule because she's super cool"?

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Post by DarkMatter (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:29 pm

Who's your favorite character again, Grilox? Twist, right? :pcstare:

Also, the Apple family should have a limit of one cider per customer. Considering how limited their supply was. They still would have ran out but they'd have a lot more to go around. And at least Dash would have gotten some.
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Post by Ragnar (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:47 pm

DarkMatter wrote:Also, the Apple family should have a limit of one cider per customer. Considering how limited their supply was. They still would have ran out but they'd have a lot more to go around. And at least Dash would have gotten some.

The false mustache/beagle puss store would sell out at 6 AM the first day the Apples tried this. The trick would work for everyone except Rainbow, whose mane AJ would recognize.
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Post by Glazius (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:18 pm

Blarghalt wrote:I wonder how Celestia, as an absolute monarch, has resisted becoming corrupt over the course of 1000 years.

Friendship is magic.

Evil tyrants don't have friends.

Therefore.
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Post by Grilox (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:26 pm

Glazius wrote:Friendship is magic.

Evil tyrants don't have friends.

Therefore.


So since Celestia is THE MOST MAGICAL PONY then that means she couldn't be THE MOST MAGICAL PONY if she became corrupt.

Also that could never happen because Celestia's the Bestia.

Wait do ponies gain power from platonic love like changelings gain power from romantic love? :starity:
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Post by Applepie (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:26 pm

AJ+Flutts episodes too.
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Post by Ragnar (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:33 pm

Grilox wrote:Wait do ponies gain power from platonic love like changelings gain power from romantic love? :starity:

Sure looks like it. Friendship is, I am given to understand, magic.
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Post by fenster (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:37 pm

DarkMatter wrote:I still want a :dreamworks: :-P episode.


Griffon the Brush Off/Putting your Hoof Down? :v:
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Post by Mr. Big (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:42 pm

Yeah, "Putting Your Hooves Down" has plenty of Pinkie and Fluttershy interactions (well, Rarity, Pinkie, and Fluttershy anyway)
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Post by ixnay (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:43 pm

This Fox News article may contain one of the funniest sentences I've read in a while:

Asked if she had ever heard of the phenomenon of Military Bronies, a Pentagon spokeswoman said "I'm unaware of the concept." But when told about Rainbow Dash patches finding their way onto uniforms, the spokeswoman told FoxNews.com there could be a problem.
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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:46 pm

219 and 221 were the second* time really that a trio of ponies (there are 20 trios for the Mane 6) was used to construct an episode, although the latter didn't do a whole lot with them since Spike was the focus. The first time would be 108.

Anyways, with Williams the Pinkie + Fluts dynamic wasn't as explored as, say, HF's R.D. + Fluts, and it's diluted by Rarity taking a significant chunk of the interaction with Pinkie anyways. Not that a HF-type plot would work at all with Pinkie-Fluts, but I want some serious exploration done even in a funny episode.

*Going through the episodes in my head right now and not remembering any other trios really. 120 has Twi as a minor 3rd to Fluts + Rar, but Pinkie is nearly as involved from the outside as Twi... I'm reluctant to put 116 in since Fluts' cheering problems and Rarity's :iiaia: are completely divergent plot threads.

EDIT: Oh noez, a rainbow cutie mark violates the standards of the U.S. military :twonk:
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Post by Headless Horse (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:47 pm

I'll just bookmark that thank you.
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Post by W.T. Fits (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:53 pm

Grilox wrote:So since Celestia is THE MOST MAGICAL PONY


Except she's not the most magical pony. :pcstare:

Twilight and Pinkie are the most magical ponies. Twilight because of her cutie mark, Pinkie because her monkey sphere is set to infinity. :excite: :party:
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Post by Grilox (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:17 pm

W.T. Fits wrote:Except she's not the most magical pony. :pcstare:

Twilight and Pinkie are the most magical ponies. Twilight because of her cutie mark, Pinkie because her monkey sphere is set to infinity. :excite: :party:


AHEM. :rainbert:

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Post by Plobo (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:20 pm

^^ That.
I haven't seen Twilight raising the goddamn sun yet.
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Post by W.T. Fits (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:22 pm

Grilox wrote:AHEM. :rainbert:

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I reject your reality, and substitute my headcanon. :-I

Plobo wrote:^^ That.
I haven't seen Twilight raising the goddamn sun yet.


Keyword in that sentence: "yet." :excite:
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Post by Grilox (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:24 pm

W.T. Fits wrote:
I reject your reality, and substitute my headcanon. :-I


My headcanon is that Celestia's super omnipotent and could blip you from existence so my headcanon defeats yours. :gotcha:
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Post by Plobo (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:25 pm

If she'll raise the sun one day, she can finally call herself Princess Twilight Alicorna Sparkle. Or, you know, Celestia 2.
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Post by The Doctor (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:27 pm

Lets also not forget that Celestia also figured out how to raise the Moon on her own too.
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Post by Stuff (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:28 pm

Haha, the Derpy figure was on the Hasbro toy site this morning. It was sold out in less than an hour. :gonkity:
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Post by Mr. Big (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:31 pm

There's plenty of Derby Hooves left, tho.
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Post by reidransom (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:53 pm

I didn't see this posted already, and it doesn't really warrant a thread so it may as well go here.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/18/mi ... -fan-club/


e: oh, if only there were a comment section to quotemine :allears:
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Post by Doctor Wheeze (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:55 pm

Grilox wrote:
AHEM. :rainbert:

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:ohboy: Celestia is wise and kind ♪
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Post by Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:07 pm

:gotcha: "You know, we don't actually raise the sun and moon."
:speakest: "Goodness no! Who could perform such an impossible task? Such a thing is ridiculous."
:gotcha: "We just lower the earth. Same effect, and much easier!"
:speakest: "But don't tell anypony! It's a carefully guarded royal scam!"
:gotcha: "Secret."
:speakest: "Carefully guarded royal secret."
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Post by Plobo (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:15 pm

Now I'm wondering if there are any conspirators in Equestria. Living for thousand years, sending someone to the moon for thousand years, day/night magic, there's gotta be someone who doesn't believe that. Who thinks Discord was an inside job and Nightmare Moon was faked. Gabby Gums should get back to business and start opening the eyes of the gullible sheep, unfolding the lies of the government. :smirk:
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Post by Electric Pony (?) » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:18 pm

Wayoshi wrote:EDIT: Oh noez, a rainbow cutie mark violates the standards of the U.S. military :twonk:


Actually there are some very strict rules about uniforms. When you can wear them, what kind of uniform you can wear, where you can wear them. And one of the biggest no-nos is modifying the uniform (even the RD cutie mark, as small as it is, is a modification). I know why the guy did it, but even at BronyCon he probably shouldn't have worn the uniform. They were accepting the military folks based off of their I.D. so he didn't need to be wearing it.
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Post by Pocket (?) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:04 am

My favorite part:
Not everyone gets it. A commenter on a Military Times forum was just one of many who questioned why grown men would feel such allegiance to a kids' cartoon.

“I can think of at least four violations here: wearing a duty uniform while supposedly off-duty or at an unauthorized location;
wearing an official Army uniform to an event that I guarantee the Army is not officially involved with; wearing a non-sanctioned patch on the uniform in place of current unit patch; and attending a My Little Pony convention.”


Also, holy cow that site has some clever coders; highlighting and copying any text from the article automatically appends a link to the page at the end.
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Post by Bag of Magic Food (?) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:15 am

Plobo wrote:Now I'm wondering if there are any conspirators in Equestria. Living for thousand years, sending someone to the moon for thousand years, day/night magic, there's gotta be someone who doesn't believe that.

I've been wondering what all conspiracies there might be to create a magical sense of order ever since that G3 movie where Santa Claus apparently did things for real but could never be met in person.

W.T. Fits wrote:Twilight and Pinkie are the most magical ponies. Twilight because of her cutie mark, Pinkie because her monkey sphere is set to infinity. :excite: :party:

Wouldn't that mean Pinkie Pie has an infinitely large brain?
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Post by Headless Horse (?) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:16 am

Pocket wrote:Also, holy cow that site has some clever coders; highlighting and copying any text from the article automatically appends a link to the page at the end.


They're probably just using Tynt.

Electric Pony wrote:Actually there are some very strict rules about uniforms. When you can wear them, what kind of uniform you can wear, where you can wear them. And one of the biggest no-nos is modifying the uniform (even the RD cutie mark, as small as it is, is a modification). I know why the guy did it, but even at BronyCon he probably shouldn't have worn the uniform. They were accepting the military folks based off of their I.D. so he didn't need to be wearing it.


I saw them at the con and all I could think was that the uniforms were surplus or costumes or something. They had embroidered National Guard text logos on them, but the cutie mark patches and various other details (including the fact that they were there in uniform to begin with) made me think they were cosplaying as military bronies or something. :pinkieshrug: That'll teach me to be skeptical, I guess.
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Post by The Doctor (?) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:18 am

I seem to remember a story about there being a unit that put RD into their official unit patch. A search and Rescue group I believe...
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