[Minecraft] Alintetra - a server for Ponygoons & Friends!

[Kiith Soban"Perception is fundamental to the Order. It guides the feet when running and climbing. Informs the hands when striking and fighting. But most important, it transforms the senses. And we begin to know the world in a different way."]

So what are everyone's thoughts on installing a vertical movement mod like Lift; seeing as SMP piston elevators are essentially laggy murderboxes?

For my two cents, I think it's a decent idea. There are no custom blocks to break backward compatibility (any more than our dependence lockette or LWC, or most of all the lack of flammability does), still moderately expensive with its requirement of iron blocks, and not particularly 'cheaty', as it doesn't do anything you can't do with a bucket of water or a set of ladders. It just does it nicer.

Considering how slow ladders are, this is a good idea. It's not cheaty, but it's very convenient.

[PinkemonIts SO limited edition! :'D]

I'd be okay with the lifts too. It always nice to have convenient things.

[Yolostar]

That is a pretty cool mod, I would defiantly support putting it in.

[Momar]

Hey guys.

If you're aggroing pigmen in the nether, please finish the job. If you unload the chunks with angry piggies on them, they just lay in wait for the next hapless rube to come along.

[Westy543]

FYI you can /home and /home bed separately. Two homes for everyone!

This is a bug and might be fixed soon though so

Looks like it's been fixed.

[Dal]

Thanks to Throb, CV, and Pinkiemon the chicken reactor is now fully operational. I now have a gateway into the elemental plane of poultry.

[PinkemonIts SO limited edition! :'D]

^I have no idea what that even means, but either way, hooray!

[Glaed]

So, something that's been bugging me for the past few days (warning, this will probably be a little confusing/badly worded. I'm in need of more sleep) :
Why do we even have LWC?

Not only is it redundant with Lockette, it's always on, as far as I can tell isn't clan-compatible, leaves no indication when it's on, actively hampers clan (or public) projects since you not only have to lockette anything you want the clan to have access to but you then have to make sure to disable LWC's protection on every single chest/furnace you placed. There's no way to disable it from auto-locking EVERYTHING you place afaik.

[Throbulatorhello.jpg]

Thanks to Throb, CV, and Pinkiemon the chicken reactor is now fully operational. I now have a gateway into the elemental plane of poultry.

Oh, you have made a chicken singularity? I'd love to come and see it!

[Glaed]

You'd have to walk all the way out to the Fortress of Lunatude

[TerephthalatBlame the cat's heath.]

Why do we even have LWC?

Guess I am to blame for that. To make it short, the advantages to LWC are that it basically requires no interaction unless you want to make stuff accessible by other persons. Especially new or scatter-brained players can't forget to lock their chests that way. It also doesn't require you to slap signs on every chest that either block your access or take up space. The disadvantages are that you have to type /cremove before setting up your clan permissions.
And that's why I suggested it to the team.

[GrimI'M THE WORLD CHAMP BETCHA CAN'T BEAT MEBALL SO HARD LITTLE GIRLS WANT A PONY]

Why do we even have LWC?

Because LWC does everything better except clan protections, which only a small number of people will have to deal with. Having to craft and place a sign on a chest, with specific text on it, is an ugly mess and I can't see how anyone would want it. It's more of a hassle than typing /cremove for those instances where you want a clan-protected chest under Lockette, which only make up a tiny fraction of the chests people will be using.

We save trees using less signs anyway.

[Lazy]

Yeah, having to plaster signs on everything is a massive pain, wastes space, and takes up wood.
There are far less chests/furnaces that need to be public than ones that need to be private, so I don't see why having them private by default is a bad thing.

[Westy543]

I like LWC a lot. I wish we could just add [TAGS] to the access list though.

Wait, doesn't simpleclans create groups and add players to them as parts of clans? Couldn't we add say g:Lunatics (or is it the tag that is the group name?) to the access lists?

[GrimI'M THE WORLD CHAMP BETCHA CAN'T BEAT MEBALL SO HARD LITTLE GIRLS WANT A PONY]

Wait, doesn't simpleclans create groups and add players to them as parts of clans? Couldn't we add say g:Lunatics (or is it the tag that is the group name?) to the access lists?

I just checked:

Automatic Groups

You can now give specific clans, and or ranks (leaders, trusted) specific permissions. For example you may want to give all clan leaders the ability to use another plugin, or do something special, or you may want to give all members of a specific clan the ability to cast spells. You can now do this with the auto-group feature.

You can enable auto-groups by setting settings.enable-auto-groups to true in the config, all clan players in your server will now be placed in one of three permissions groups automatically:
SCUntrusted
SCTrusted
SCLeader

On top of this, players that belong in a clan will also be placed in a permission group linking them to that specific clan:
Clan[tag]

So for example a trusted player in clan KoL will be added to the following groups:
SCTrusted
ClanKol

WARNING: Test this with your permissions plugin, some permissions plugins actually remove players from their default groups. Auto-Groups do not work with the BukkitPermissions plugin, no adverse side effects, it just wont work. If you are using Groupmanager a workaround exists that will let you use auto-groups, read about it here http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/simpl ... omment=349.

In short, with this enabled and working (if it isn't already) Lockette would be pretty much useless. I could throw down a chest and do /cmodify g:ClanShy and that'd be that.

[Herr Generalfabulous]

Also, signs are ugly.

[Westy543]

Only reason to keep lockette around would be automatic door timers.

[Glaed]

Well then, that works too!

[Dal]

Westy and I cycled the reactor for the first time tonight. Everything worked as designed except for the fact that we realized we are terrible people for atom smashing 64 chickens.

[PhoolCatKeep on Trottin']

…but did you find the Eggs Boson??

In other news I'm off to Germany to work for a fortnight, hopefully there will be internets

[weedgoku]

It's finally finished!





I'd have removed the last bit of dirt scaffolding but I wanted to go to bed early

[MetalSonicHello, IT. Have you tried turning it off and on again?]

Just wondering what plugins/mods you are using and if you could add MetalSonic93 to the whitelist.

[Momar]

I have a mockup elevator for the Lift mod and I check it every time I log in to see if it works yet.

Just wondering what plugins/mods you are using and if you could add MetalSonic93 to the whitelist.

Not an official list, but:
Bukkit essentials
Clans
No fire/destructive creepers/thievin' endermen
LWC
Lockette
Death Chests
Some sorta economy mod

[Hyper!!!I had two avatars, but the admins were able to do something about it...]

It's finally finished!





I'd have removed the last bit of dirt scaffolding but I wanted to go to bed early

So cute!

Filly Twilight eating a melon adorably is the Alintetra mascot, even if everyone disagrees with this statement, it is still true.

[Westy543]

That pixel art looks amazing!

Bukkit essentials
No fire/destructive creepers/thievin' endermen

The same thing.

You can type /plugins ingame to see the list of plugins!

[Momar]

A question of taste:
Smoothstone & Obsidian or Brick & Netherbrick?

[Holloway420am fix aircraft erryday]

Momar, it depends on the purpose of the building. Netherakk is a warmer tone, suited for the temperate climate your building is in, but it is also very weak. Iirc, creeper explosions don't affect this server, but as someone who plays on a server where they do, it's sort of an eyebrow raise.

The obsidian is more foreboding, usually marks a jail or a vault of some sort.

EDIT: Oh, derp, that's netherbrick. Yeah, netherbrick all the way. :V

[PloboWhat'cha want me to do with this? Go pranking?I threw it on the ground!]

The bricks look better. So if it's only for the design, go for them.
Also I haven't been on the server for about forever, I need to make some free time to visit...

[Westy543]

[Lazy]

Oh god Westy that's horrible and beautiful.
The wonders of nature.

[Momar]

I thought so too. It's certainly going to be a lot easier to work with blocks I can break easily.

Now before I tear a giant freaking strip off the nether fortress - are we going to be selling it in the server shop?

PS: Mycelium is now on sale in the pavilion. Had to make a 22 km trip to get it, died once, and it was only dumb luck I found it in that ocean.

[jamartinezm:3]

Ok, we seem to have a little bit of an issue with the amount of cattle/entities on small areas.

Lots of entities moving on small spaces = lots of collision checking = lots of lag.

I honestly do not see the necessity to have more than 10 or 20 cows, and some of you have over 80 in a 10x10 area (yeah, I checked the some on some farms [ban CV] [ban oscarmelgar] [ban throb]
Normally I wouldn't mind but this is becoming an issue.

Most likely, we'll have to find a way to limit the number of entities (cattle / villagers) you can have since it is lagging the server down to less than 7 ticks per second (we should be at 20) ...
If we have to remove some of the entities, we'll try to make it up to you somehow.

I'll get back to you on that.

EDIT: Example of cow lag
Sheep lag:

[Control Volume160x160? What 160x160?]

Welpp, I guess my sheep farms just aren't destined to be. At least those are 15x15 areas!!

e: When command blocks come out, you could make a server sanctioned sheep farm where you press a button, it kills all the sheep in that area, and then spawns 200 or so in that color. 200 isn't a particularly large number and people still have to shear their own wool, but it keeps sheep numbers down. Then you could have a kill button that murders the sheep when you're done.

e2: guess it could be a smaller number since you can click the button again and get fresh new sheep.

[Dal]

Maybe I shouldn't compress 98 chickens into a 5x5x1 area...

[PinkemonIts SO limited edition! :'D]

Ah. At one point I was considering making one of those mob trap devices (Based off of the one captainsparkles used in his skyblock playthrough since it seemed pretty efficient. At least, if EXP would get flushed down along with the items) but I guess one of those would create too much lag as well? I won't do that, then.

[OneWayLearningLocal RPG parasprite]

A minecraft server? I suppose I should come out of my legendary Isolation to see just whats up with this, eh? See you all on server.

[Momar]

Ah. At one point I was considering making one of those mob trap devices (Based off of the one captainsparkles used in his skyblock playthrough since it seemed pretty efficient. At least, if EXP would get flushed down along with the items) but I guess one of those would create too much lag as well? I won't do that, then.

Mob traps, comparatively, are low yield. You're collecting maybe 30 mobs before you kill them off (or you're killing them off instantly), and unlike livestock they do not have a permanent presence, so when the chunks aren't loaded the mobs aren't a problem. Just don't go nuts.

[Cthulhu IncÞe Eġeful]

So I built/am building this rail thing.



Default textures:



Should I replace the stone brick with nether brick?

[Momar]

No, no, for the love of God no. I'll curse your name every time I cross it and think I've discovered a new Nether Fortress.

So where is it going to/from?

[Throbulatorhello.jpg]

Oh dear, I didn't know the mobs were slowing the entire server down. Cattle have been culled!