[Mafia] The Seventh Element

[HyliusWhat? Heroes are cool too.]

Sorry Colton if you're still reading you're taking too long. Can't risk it.

##vote MetalSonic

Sorry!

[Westy543]

HAMMER!!!

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Surviving Players: Grilox, princessdahlia, Hylius, Vulin, WalrusWhiskers,
                   sharkmafia, MetalSonic, Tzar469, Control Volume, Colton, M.D.
Player Count: 10    Hammer at: 6

Current Vote Count (Day 4):
Colton, M.D.:       4 [Tzar469, Vulin, Vulin, MetalSonic]
MetalSonic:         6 [Colton, M.D., WalrusWhiskers, sharkmafia, princessdahlia, Grilox, Hylius]
No vote yet:        1 [Control Volume]

I'm messing with DND stuff but I'll resolve in a few.

[Westy543]

you all so helpful, metalsonic great! helps metalsonic out of game.
MetalSonic, Yellowstar, the townie-aligned Vanilla Townie has been helped out of the game!!
##lynch MetalSonic

Night 4

##night 4
23 hours for actions, 2 night posts etc.

Players helped out of the game:
Dexanth, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Roleblocker
ToastGhost, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Vanilla Townie
Lazy, Yellowstar, the scumfuck-aligned Death Inventor
Pzeper, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Watcher
Val Helmethead, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Vanilla Townie
Throbulator, Yellowstar, the unhelpful-aligned Rolecop
MetalSonic, Yellowstar, the townie-aligned Vanilla Townie

Players still able to be helped:
Grilox
Vulin
Hylius
Control Volume
Colton, M.D.
WalrusWhiskers
sharkmafia
princessdahlia
Tzar469

##denyMultiVote Vulin

[Colton, M.D.You'll read everything I post,In this man's voice.]

Are you kidding me?

Now I'm really confused as to who the remaining scum are.

[Grilox]

booooooooooooooooo

dahlia play league of legends with me.

Also this is probably my last post since I'm prob. gonna die tonight ooooo noooo

[Tzar469"A thrilling time is in your immediate future."]

yep we should have lynched Colton omg

[WalrusWhiskersGummy cuts a mean rug.]

Well that sucks

I'm kind of stumped as to who is scum now. Maybe Tzar or CV...



Colton could possibly be scum, but let's see what happens. Hope Hylius doesnt die.

[Tzar469"A thrilling time is in your immediate future."]

I would REALLY like to lynch Colton for his lack of comment on both Lazy and Throb and instead choosing to tunnel MS for days!!!

If it's ultimately not Colton then it's WW because he's made minimal contribution in terms of original opinion. Most of his posts are "what do you think about person X" and "Yea I agree with you about Z"! Just go look at his post history!!

Also he goes from thinking Tzar is town to Tzar is scum just because sharkmafia misinterpreted one post that I made! Way to not form your own opinion!!

[MetalSonicHello, IT. Have you tried turning it off and on again?]

Hey! Hey town! Lookit me, lookit me. I´m town as I said ya. Go town!

[HyliusWhat? Heroes are cool too.]

Dangit I knew it.

In other news I actually lost Internet less than a minute after hammering. I'd hate to imagine what would've happened if I would've waited a little bit longer.

[Westy543]

Día Cinco

##day 5

Hello, who to help. Is hylius!
Hylius, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Cop has been helped out of the game night 4!
##tk hylius

48 hour for phase, to thursday. cap fast - hammer is fives.
##allowMultiVote WalrusWhiskers

Players helped out of the game:
Dexanth, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Roleblocker
ToastGhost, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Vanilla Townie
Lazy, Yellowstar, the scumfuck-aligned Death Inventor
Pzeper, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Watcher
Val Helmethead, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Vanilla Townie
Throbulator, Yellowstar, the unhelpful-aligned Rolecop
MetalSonic, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Vanilla Townie
Hylius, Yellowstar, the town-aligned Cop

Players still able to be helped:
Grilox
Vulin
Control Volume
Colton, M.D.
WalrusWhiskers
sharkmafia
princessdahlia
Tzar469

[princessdahliacome out come out wherever you are~]

Yea so I still think Vulin is scum!! ##vote Vulin

[Colton, M.D.You'll read everything I post,In this man's voice.]

Noooo Hylius

[Grilox]

I guess scum doesn't think I'm ~a threat~ anymore or something because I am really surprised to be alive!

More thoughts when I get them!!

[Tzar469"A thrilling time is in your immediate future."]

##vote Walrus

[WalrusWhiskersGummy cuts a mean rug.]

Thanks for the double vote, I guess? I don't know why you didn't just give it to Dahlia/Grilox, but I guess a double vote doesn't really matter much anyways.

Cool vote, tzar. Mind not voting for me? I'm town. (If you recall I voted for throb early, before hylius claimed cop (though tbh I would do this as scum anyways since I love bussing)).

In any case I'll roleclaim now since I'm probably not gona use my power anymore and scum probably won't bother to nightkill me anyways. I'm a helper and I make people's actions at night unblockable. I didn't use it the first two nights since I wasn't sure of anyone having a PR and didn't want scum to get an unblockable kill. Night 3 & 4 I helped Hylius.

[WalrusWhiskersGummy cuts a mean rug.]

So here are my immediate impressions:

Grilox - Claimed BP and some sort of other role. Almost certainly town.
Colton, M.D. - Has an town investigation from cop, would assume he is town for now.
WalrusWhiskers - townier than the mayor of townsville
sharkmafia - Claimed double vote giver. Probably town.
princessdahlia - Led the lynch on lazy, pretty towny imo.
Tzar469 - Also led the lynch on lazy, though I'm a bit more suspicious of this dude.
Vulin - Used a terrible dayvig day 1 (the fact that he had a dayvig made me think he's town up until now, but there aren't that many people left), he was pretty adamant in defending Throb and wanted to lynch Grilox day 1 because ???.
Control Volume - Claimed annoying third party. Would def lynch him especially since it's getting close to lylo.

At this point I want to lynch Vulin or CV.

[Vulin]

Vulin - Used a terrible dayvig day 1 (the fact that he had a dayvig made me think he's town up until now, but there aren't that many people left), he was pretty adamant in defending Throb and wanted to lynch Grilox day 1 because ???.

I wasn't really "adamant" about defending Throb. Hylius' case didn't feel strong and I was more sure about metal being scum.
Also you voted Grilox on day 1 yourself and later admitted to not caring about who gets lynched day 1.

[Vulin]

Also I'm somewhat at a loss in regards to who we should lynch right now.

Grilox - The BP claim seems to be legit, so he is likely to be town.
Colton, M.D. - Hylius investigation says he is town, but besides that his play has been rather scummy and, according to Grilox, there appears to be a scum busdriver in the game.
WalrusWhiskers - Very weak opinions, didn't really go after anyone with some force, but is always there to complain when people screw up. He did vote Throb before Hylius' cop claim though. At first I though that this could be due to the rolecop maybe finding out Hylius role and WW jumping in early on the Throb bandwagon, but WW's posts make it look like a townie train of thought that led to the conclusion. He is probably town.
sharkmafia - With the claim I don't see any real way that he is scum right now.
princessdahlia - Fairly sure she is town. She pushed for the lazy lynch and her efforts to hunt scum looks sincere.
Tzar469 - Early vote on lazy which doesn't look like scum bussing. Probably town.
Vulin - Still the best.
Control Volume - He claimed 3rd party, so I wouldn't mind lynching him, but I'm worried about maybe wasting a lynch if his lynch/bullet proof claim is true.

So yeah, I would be fine with lynching Colton or CV now, I think.

[Tzar469"A thrilling time is in your immediate future."]

Cool vote, tzar. Mind not voting for me? I'm town.

You haven't done anything to prove that you're town.

In any case I'll roleclaim now since I'm probably not gona use my power anymore and scum probably won't bother to nightkill me anyways. I'm a helper and I make people's actions at night unblockable. I didn't use it the first two nights since I wasn't sure of anyone having a PR and didn't want scum to get an unblockable kill. Night 3 & 4 I helped Hylius.

We had a town roleblocker so why would we also have a town unroleblocker?? If your claim is true then you're scum-aligned just because you directly counter a town role.

If you're lying about your claim, you are scum, so either way, get lynched.

ALSO since the roleblocker died D1, it's more like you visited Hylius N3 and N4 and tried to kill him before

I'm a helper

This seals the deal because instead of claiming your actual role name, you claim a helper. Even CV claimed a role name.

I wasn't sure of anyone having a PR

WTF if Westy gave you such a role then obviously the town has PRs. I think you're experienced enough at mafia to make this assumption. Either you assume that or you're scum

[Tzar469"A thrilling time is in your immediate future."]

Control Volume - Claimed annoying third party. Would def lynch him especially since it's getting close to lylo.

It's getting close to lylo and you want to lynch an unlynchable 3rd party?!?!?! hahaha

[Control Volume160x160? What 160x160?]

I too think lynching me is a bad and dumb plan.

[WalrusWhiskersGummy cuts a mean rug.]

Wow tzar. You're so off the mark that if you were playing darts you wouldn't even be hitting the wall.

You haven't done anything to prove that you're town.

Well, I was on the lazy and throb lynch and I've also contributed to the discussion somewhat, so you should think I'm town. Also refer to my third post this game.

We had a town roleblocker so why would we also have a town unroleblocker?? If your claim is true then you're scum-aligned just because you directly counter a town role.

If you're lying about your claim, you are scum, so either way, get lynched.

As for why there is a town roleblocker and a town unblockable-giver, Ask Westy.

I don't see why there couldn't be those two roles in a game though. Roleblocker is usually a scum role, and often interferes with town power roles but it's sometimes given to town to make things more interesting. Your argument that I must be scum because my role does the opposite of another town role is pretty arbitrary.

ALSO since the roleblocker died D1, it's more like you visited Hylius N3 and N4 and tried to kill him before

This seals the deal because instead of claiming your actual role name, you claim a helper. Even CV claimed a role name.

My role is literally "Helper". And why wouldn't I help Hylius when he claimed cop? He would obviously be the target for a kill or a roleblock, so he was the best guy to help.

WTF if Westy gave you such a role then obviously the town has PRs. I think you're experienced enough at mafia to make this assumption. Either you assume that or you're scum

You misunderstood what I posted, Of course I know there are power roles in this game. As an unblockable-giver I was looking for town-power roles to help, but I didn't see anyone with a power role the first two days (aside from Vulin, but I kind of ignored him). And I certainly didn't want to randomly help someone and end up giving scum an unblockable kill. As far as I know I'm not even sure there is a scum roleblocker.

Anyways you should strongly reconsider your suspicions against me.

Hey CV, give us something to work with. Who do you suspect right now? What would you do if the game came down to lylo?

Also just to note: We are at 8 people right now, an even number. Which means that no lynching at some point might be a good idea since we don't want to mislynch on a mylo situation. We could even lynch CV to test his claim if we wanted.

[Control Volume160x160? What 160x160?]

Hey CV, give us something to work with. Who do you suspect right now? What would you do if the game came down to lylo?.

This is an interesting question because I've been very open with my suspicions and provided reasons as to why. Even a cursory read of my post history would reveal this. I have given you plenty to work with and the only thing you've done to case me is "I think CV is scum let's lynch CV." And here you are asking that question, insinuating that I have said nothing of note.

If the game came down to LYLO? I would do what I've always been doing and post opinions and words because there's not much else I can do otherwise. I guess I would also be smug in the knowledge that I won regardless of who is lynched at that point.

[Control Volume160x160? What 160x160?]

So, to turn this around on you WW, why do you want to lynch me? You haven't provided any cogent reasons as to why I should be lynched and in fact once posted that others "shouldn't waste a lynch on [me]."

[Tzar469"A thrilling time is in your immediate future."]

Well, I was on the lazy and throb lynch and I've also contributed to the discussion somewhat, so you should think I'm town.

So have I but for some reason you wanted to lynch me yesterday!!

As for why there is a town roleblocker and a town unblockable-giver, Ask Westy.

I don't see why there couldn't be those two roles in a game though. Roleblocker is usually a scum role, and often interferes with town power roles but it's sometimes given to town to make things more interesting. Your argument that I must be scum because my role does the opposite of another town role is pretty arbitrary.

LOL no, roleblocker is not usually a scum role (see town drunk). However, the existence of a town anti-RBer highly implies a scum roleblocker (because if there isn't then your role is ONLY detrimental to town). The point is that there probably won't be a town RBer, a scum RBer, AND a town anti-RBer. Plus we allegedly have a scum bus driver I don't believe they would have a roleblocker on top of that!!!

And why wouldn't I help Hylius when he claimed cop? He would obviously be the target for a kill or a roleblock, so he was the best guy to help.

I think you're just covering your tracks just in case you got tracked to Hylius.

[WalrusWhiskersGummy cuts a mean rug.]

re CV: Yes, I posted that we shouldn't waste a lynch on you if you were telling the truth about being third party yesterday. I'm not as sure of your claim anymore and I realized that we are headed to a mylo situation and it wouldn't be a bad idea to test your supposed 1-shot bp/lynch-protection.

I also think the majority of the rest of people alive is likely town (with the exception Vulin).

So how about you post your thoughts on the game?

preview edit: Oh my god tzar you are terrible, stop being terrible.

[Tzar469"A thrilling time is in your immediate future."]

WW, you're scum so get lynched.

[WalrusWhiskersGummy cuts a mean rug.]

I actually did think it was pretty weird that Westy gave me this role. My role implies there is a scum roleblocker, but I'm not even sure there even is one (which is part of the reason I didn't do anything the first 2 days). I agree, it seems kind of strange that this game would have 1 town roleblocker, 1 town unblockable-giver and 1 scum roleblocker, but I can't defend Westy's setup.

Anyways, remember Grilox got shot day 3? I visited Hylius the same night. You're very confused and wrong about your implication that I'm covering my supposed kill attempts with a helper claim.

[Control Volume160x160? What 160x160?]

I'm not as sure of your claim anymore

You got a reason for this?

You have been throwing me in every single scum list in the latter part of this game and you have not offered one iota of justification, and now you're trotting out this "test his claim" bullshit that doesn't benefit town in the least. If you think I am scum, provide reasons for it, because you have failed to do so in every single post regarding me and it's starting to get annoying watching you deliberately sow suspicion in a way that seems constructed to not allow me to address it.

Also this:
"Well, I was on the lazy and throb lynch and I've also contributed to the discussion somewhat, so you should think I'm town."

is making me seriously reconsider Colton+dahlia being the final scum team. This is so blatantly scummy that it hurts. It reads like pre-planned scum bussing for town points. Literally, this is what scum wants town to think when they bus a teammate, distilled into a single sentence. And here you are using it as "proof" that you are town. Ughghgh

[Control Volume160x160? What 160x160?]

Update:

[Control Volume160x160? What 160x160?]

So due to certain events, I have realized that I'm pretty damn secure in my victory. First things first, I'm not really a survivor, I just misread my role. Secondly, the post restriction thing was a one-shot that I just threw on Throb for laughs (seriously that would be hella annoying if it was every night); however I had a second ability that I didn't want to claim because it turns out I'm actually Not Bulletproof and I didn't want scum to gun for me. That ability is being a tracker. It ties into my role but I'm not going to tell you anything about it because I don't have to and you can't make me so nyah. Deal with it nerdlingers.

Anyways now that surviving isn't as relevant, I tracked WW because he was constantly getting on my case, and it is true that he visited Hylius last night. However, he also visited Grilox. I'm sure the rest of you can put the pieces together.

Also this is the point where I am freed from my restriction of being a Good Player so yeah! Fun times for all!

[WalrusWhiskersGummy cuts a mean rug.]

Anyways now that surviving isn't as relevant, I tracked WW because he was constantly getting on my case, and it is true that he visited Hylius last night. However, he also visited Grilox. I'm sure the rest of you can put the pieces together.

This is complete bullshit. I never visited Grilox, liar. You obviously don't care about helping town anymore, so let me do you a favor:

##multivote ControlVolume $$ ControlVolume

[Grilox]

Yup that response is scum.

##vote walruswhiskers

[sharkmafiaBEHOLD THE BUG-EYED MASTERS OF TIME]

LOL no, roleblocker is not usually a scum role (see town drunk).

wrong

roleblocker is a very common scum role because it's the primary way scum counter the town power roles other than killing them. This is independent of the rest of the discussion I just wanted to stamp out this flagrant misinformation with the steel-toed boot of my correct facts

[sharkmafiaBEHOLD THE BUG-EYED MASTERS OF TIME]

I should also note that scum roles that grant unblockable are not usually concerned with town roleblocking roles but rather with down protective roles (doctor, bodyguard)

[sharkmafiaBEHOLD THE BUG-EYED MASTERS OF TIME]

Thanks for the double vote, I guess? I don't know why you didn't just give it to Dahlia/Grilox, but I guess a double vote doesn't really matter much anyways.

This is interesting because I'm pretty sure I tried to double vote hylius, the guy who died and who you apparently made unblockable.

Putting aside CV's claim for a moment, how in hell did you get the doublevote? A bus driver seems rather unlikely since it seems like hylius was probably the real scum target, being that he was the cop and all. Some sort of role stealing ability? Who knows. Of course were that the case it begs the question as to why you thought a lie about that would fool anybody since I would just claim the actual target of the ability.

HUM. hmm

[sharkmafiaBEHOLD THE BUG-EYED MASTERS OF TIME]

Action stealing ability whatever the point is either you were the genuine scum target and got busdriven (and the scum weren't actually gunning for the cop) or you aren't telling the truth about your role

[Tzar469"A thrilling time is in your immediate future."]

Yay let's lynch WW!!

wrong

roleblocker is a very common scum role because it's the primary way scum counter the town power roles other than killing them. This is independent of the rest of the discussion I just wanted to stamp out this flagrant misinformation with the steel-toed boot of my correct facts

It's an equally common town role because it's a way for town to counter scum roles other than killing them

[Westy543]

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Surviving Players: Grilox, princessdahlia, WalrusWhiskers, sharkmafia, Vulin,
                   Tzar469, Control Volume, Colton, M.D.
Player Count: 8    Hammer at: 5

Current Vote Count (Day 5):
Vulin:              1 [princessdahlia]
WalrusWhiskers:     2 [Tzar469, Grilox]
Control Volume:     2 [WalrusWhiskers, WalrusWhiskers]
No vote yet:        4 [sharkmafia, Vulin, Control Volume, Colton, M.D.]


Happy birthday Vulin btw!!