The Round Stable

(?) · by **Frosthawk** (?) » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:51 am

That's much more of a response than I ever could have expected - many thanks you three! :awesomedash:

I'm still sifting through all of it, cause that's a lot! Even the bigger names (Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada et al) are artists I have heard but have never looked too deeply into, so I'm pretty much starting at square one. I'll be keeping track of those three posts for a WHILE because that's going to be a good reference for probably months to come.

Edit: Top of the page, I feel I should actually contribute something.

Uh.

I'm stumped right now. So have some Stump. :v:

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(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:21 pm

ELECTRIC SIX CONCERT TONIGHT! AAAA!

WHY DO THEY COME TO MY TOWN EVERY YEAR?! WHO CARES?! PARTY TIME!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4gyJsY0mc

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(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:43 pm

A discussion was brewing in the speculation thread, and thought I'd bring it up here.

Why is "I like most music, except Country..." acceptable when "I like most music, except Rap..." isn't?

Someone else also brought this up a long time ago, I forget who, but it was along the lines of "If you show your white friends some of your Rap, unless it is really bad, they'll say it is the best thing ever, just because they're your friends." I'd submit that was because, well, a lot of us white people just don't "get it" and many probably never will. Don't think of it as us shitting on your art form, it is just hard to get into.

Like, I have a hippie friend. Headband and all of that, and she's always "Dude! Check out some of my poetry!" and we pretend that it is really good, because we're friends, but I'll never actually "get it". :pinkieshrug:

To many of us, rap poetry is the same thing as hippie poetry. Really cool and all, but, uh, I don't really get it.

Or this:

Ragnar34 wrote:I don't know why rap has to suck this bad in cartoons, but I'll bet I could come up with an explanation involving racism if I thought about it (not going to think about it).

Most music sucks in cartoons, rock, rap, country, because cartoon writers are not song writers. For MLP they seem to have hired actual song writers so that's why we're getting great music!

(?) · by **Vulin** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:51 pm

Aramek wrote:Why is "I like most music, except Country..." acceptable when "I like most music, except Rap..." isn't?

Because rap is more popular than country music.

(?) · by **Opposing Farce** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:08 pm

Aramek wrote:A discussion was brewing in the speculation thread, and thought I'd bring it up here.

Why is "I like most music, except Country..." acceptable when "I like most music, except Rap..." isn't?

Well, let's combine these two for a moment, because there's a common stereotype of the white suburban kid who says "I like everything except rap and country," and I think that's the best place to start.

Basically, the thought is that when someone says they only dislike rap and country, it's usually because they don't have any actual taste of their own; they don't listen to or think about music enough to actually have their own preferences, so that's what they fall back to: "not rap or country." The reason for that, though, is because rap and country are "poor people music." They're associated with different stereotypes, of course, but that's the common denominator between rednecks and the ghetto: being poor. So, when Dumb White Kid decides what music he likes, he taps into the prejudices he's been acculturated with and goes "I'm not poor, so I don't like poor people music."

Now, I don't know if that's actually true or not, but it is a stereotype I've seen cropping up every now and then, and that's basically the thought behind it.

As for why it might be okay to say "I like most music except country" but not "I like most music except rap," it's just because disliking rap specifically kind of has an implication of racism to it. Not liking rap doesn't actually make you racist, of course, but again, it's an assumption some people are going to make.

That said, I think writing off an entire genre is kind of inherently dumb in the first place. Music is a really diverse thing, and a genre is such a vague, uncertain description that if you really look I can almost guarantee you'll find something you like in any of them.

(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:23 pm

OpposingFarce wrote:it's just because disliking rap specifically kind of has an implication of racism to it.

Where can we draw the line between Race and Culture, though? When one says "I don't like German Music" we, as white people, automatically latch onto that as a cultural difference because thems Germans be also white. The "poor people music! eww!" feeling, I think is a lot closer to it based on cultural lines. An affluent white person doesn't have a lot in common with people from the "hood" nor the "trailer park" so, culturally, it is easy to write off the music.

Which, again, if you make an honest effort to listen to it, but still dislike it, that's fine. Music taste is a very personal thing. But, how do we get past those cultural gaps? If one listens to Rap/Country and all they hear is "beating ho's/fuckin' cousins" how do we get past that impasse?

(?) · by **Redeye** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:17 pm

Aramek wrote:I've already forgotten what that post even was. I just love lounge music, and cheesy lounge music.

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Hells yeah.

Well then.

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This is the Mike Flowers Pops. My dad owns this CD, and among all the other stuff he's ever played to me, this is by far one of the most memorable. The sound is instantly recognizable.

Oh, and the comments are hilarious and full of agonized Oasis fanboys.

(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:46 pm

I didn't know Oasis had fans. :gotcha:

(?) · by **Pink Himalayan Salt** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:51 pm

Aramek wrote:Where can we draw the line between Race and Culture, though?

The thing is, many people who say they don't like rap give their reasons as "It's all about gangsters shooting everyone and drugs and hos blah blah blah" but will happily listen to other genres of music that have elements of violence, substance abuse, misogyny, etc. It also ignores that there are rappers out there who don't do that, and that "gangster" rap is actually popular with and targeted towards white suburban males.

I remember a hilarious thread in GBS years ago when someone posted an album of theirs. It was a gimmick band that was rapping pirates (how zany!). One person literally and seriously posted that they could emphasize better with pirates then actual rappers singing about being their hard life growing up in ghettos.

(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:04 pm

See, like, I don't really care for most Metal music because, to me, it all sounds like angry Cannibal Corpse stuff. :pinkieshrug:

I know it isn't, and, I know there's a hundred different genres of Metal itself, but, I, honestly, have a hard time listening to most of it. And, to that end, I've honestly been trying to listen to more Rap. Still not necessarily my bag, but I don't get mad if it comes on a store's radio/speaker system. I just go "ooh, neat!" and continue with my day.

It must be a style thing, not just a message thing. There's plenty of songs about being poor and it sucks that are great of different genres, rock, Hip-Hop, and, especially, Blues. Wow I love me some Blues music. :allears:

So, for me, getting back to the "Hippie friend's poetry", the style of it all is what is keeping me from truly enjoying the medium at large. There are individual songs I really enjoy, that Power song is the best example, because, and I have a hard time explaining it, but you just feel...great listening to it.

One person literally and seriously posted that they could emphasize better with pirates then actual rappers singing about being their hard life growing up in ghettos.

Lolbritarians on the internet. Who knew? :v:

tl;dr: I try to like Rap because if I don't I'm afraid someone will call me racist, because then I'll be all sorts of depressed and shit. :fluttersmith:

I just haven't been able to yet.

(?) · by **Vulin** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:06 pm

Pink Himalayan Salt wrote:It was a gimmick band that was rapping pirates (how zany!).

Pirate rap is the best thing.

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(?) · by **Mordja** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:09 pm

Just wondering, Aramek, who are some of the artists you've tried listening to? Like every other type of music, there are lots of different rap subgenres that could be more your style.

(?) · by **Pink Himalayan Salt** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:14 pm

Aramek wrote:tl;dr: I try to like Rap because if I don't I'm afraid someone will call me racist, because then I'll be all sorts of depressed and shit. I just haven't been able to yet.

Not liking a genre of music because you personally don't find the style appealing is fine. You're willing to give individual songs a try and you acknowledge that while it's not your thing other people can enjoy it. The problem occurs when you insult rap for things that show up in other genres but don't say anything bad about them.

Vulin wrote:Pirate rap is the best thing.

That was actually the band that posted. Helldump had a great thread making fun of it, and one of posters is an actual rapper. He created a short song making fun of them and posted in the thread challenging them to make a retort. Then the guy who made the thread closed it calling people who insulted him "faggots", but The Finn opened it back up so more people could make fun of them. The retort they made was hilariously pitiful.

(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:28 pm

Pink Himalayan Salt wrote:and one of posters is an actual rapper.

This hearkens back to the "parody music" post I made on the last page. If one were to listen to the "Pirate Rap" and enjoy it, does that still mean that it might not be "real" music? What makes one an "Actual" artist when it comes to X genre? Is Pirate Rap "fake" rap, as opposed to the "actual" rapper that posted in the thread?

Not to defend what is obviously music to be a lark, "hey let's rap as pirates!" but, do you feel that the existence of the parody work someone insults or devalues the original medium? And if someone does indeed genuinely enjoy the Pirate Rap, why does that upset you? (Other than that they have no taste.)

(?) · by **Pink Himalayan Salt** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:34 pm

okay i just listened to the track posted jesus fuck how are they so terrible

e:

Aramek wrote:This hearkens back to the "parody music" post I made on the last page. If one were to listen to the "Pirate Rap" and enjoy it, does that still mean that it might not be "real" music? What makes one an "Actual" artist when it comes to X genre? Is Pirate Rap "fake" rap, as opposed to the "actual" rapper that posted in the thread?

Fair enough, I guess that wasn't the best phrasing. They do suck though.

Aramek wrote:Not to defend what is obviously music to be a lark, "hey let's rap as pirates!" but, do you feel that the existence of the parody work someone insults or devalues the original medium? And if someone does indeed genuinely enjoy the Pirate Rap, why does that upset you? (Other than that they have no taste.)

Not really. If someone enjoyed it I would probably make fun of their taste but it wouldn't upset me. What was terrible about the fans in that thread is they were spewing the typical "Normally I hate rap because it's horrible and all about 'goin to da club' and 'fucking hos', but this rap made by white people is good!"

e (again): I'll be heading to work soon so I'll respond to anything else way later if the topic is still going.

(?) · by **Femto** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:38 pm

I have just discovered The Stooges

The Stooges are awesome.

Here is a song about Crime and Punishment, which is also awesome. Oh Raskolnikov, you're a mixed up bastard and I love you. :allears:

It feels good to be a punk-ass, I'll tell you what. :allears:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDNzQ3CXspU

(?) · by **Ragnar** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:41 pm

Aramek wrote:This hearkens back to the "parody music" post I made on the last page. If one were to listen to the "Pirate Rap" and enjoy it, does that still mean that it might not be "real" music? What makes one an "Actual" artist when it comes to X genre? Is Pirate Rap "fake" rap, as opposed to the "actual" rapper that posted in the thread?

Not to defend what is obviously music to be a lark, "hey let's rap as pirates!" but, do you feel that the existence of the parody work someone insults or devalues the original medium? And if someone does indeed genuinely enjoy the Pirate Rap, why does that upset you? (Other than that they have no taste.)

I never did weigh in on that. I was busy.
Parody music is real music. :rainbert:

Parody in general gets a certain amount of guff and disrespect because art critics for every medium are grumpy dudes who think art has to be miserable to be meaningful, and this attitude has trickled down over the centuries. That's right, I blame academia.

Most music sucks in cartoons, rock, rap, country, because cartoon writers are not song writers. For MLP they seem to have hired actual song writers so that's why we're getting great music!

Hey. Hey. Don't give me that look. All I'm saying is, a shitty show tune feels so much less shitty to me than a shitty rap in the context of a cartoon. And something about racism but I'm going to gloss right on over that one

(?) · by **Opposing Farce** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:42 pm

Pink Himalayan Salt wrote:and one of posters is an actual rapper

Was it the Satellite High guy? I like that guy.

(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:47 pm

Pink Himalayan Salt wrote:"Normally I hate rap because it's horrible and all about 'goin to da club' and 'fucking hos', but this rap made by white people is good!"

Yeah, I get what you mean. I do like Duane and Brando because they sing about video game stuff and have video games music playing while they do it. It is silly fun, but, because it is obviously nerd music/video game, I don't really consider it Rap music, however. :pinkieshrug:

Like, it seems that while enjoyable, the artists themselves knew you weren't supposed to be taking it seriously. I wonder if that makes it okay to listen to/enjoy?

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Yeah the lyrics are violent and juvenile, but you still giggle at it because it is Mega Man.

(?) · by **Grilox** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:47 pm

I like music except country.

(For purposes of clarification, neither of these count as country because shut up.)

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(?) · by **Pink Himalayan Salt** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:48 pm

OpposingFarce wrote:Was it the Satellite High guy? I like that guy.

Yeah, he rules. He had a thread promoting his collection of Dad Rap, and the best part was someone coming in with "I don't normally like rap since it's all about..." and everyone (him included) just went :facehoof:

okay seriously going to work now

(?) · by **Isaak** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:56 pm

You don't have to like something, if you have to then what's the point?

Aramek wrote:Which, again, if you make an honest effort to listen to it, but still dislike it, that's fine. Music taste is a very personal thing. But, how do we get past those cultural gaps? If one listens to Rap/Country and all they hear is "beating ho's/fuckin' cousins" how do we get past that impasse?

Cross pollination may be a good way. Nu Metal features a lot of rap (Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit) and the MC is a big part of live Drum and Bass events for instance. Artists from completely different genres teaming up and creating amazing things is great too:

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Ultimately though it's not something you should force. Finding music on your own is much more fun and what you could do is simply point people in the right direction when asked. Like this thread :yay:

(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:04 pm

Ragnar34 wrote:And something about racism but I'm going to gloss right on over that one

Actually, don't gloss over it. I see the bad cartoon rap (which was fuckin' EVERYWHERE in the 90s) as more of a misunderstanding than overt racism. More just... unfamiliarity than anything.

Bunch of Old White Executives: "Gee, these kids sure like this rap stuff, run a focus group to see if our cereal mascot should wear shades and a crooked hat. Kids like that crooked hat for some reason. Then he can rap about how our cereal is great."

I think it is more that, the "we don't know anything about rap culture, so this looks exactly the same to us" than "those damned darkies and their jungle beats!" The latter is racism, the former is just cultural misunderstanding. They're not meaning to be so shitty, they just really can't tell the difference between "real" rap, and their shitty cartoon rap.

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Further talk. I have this Voice Acting hobby, and I'm good friends with another VA from Canada. He's black, and we were talking about the way cartoons (and in this case only cartoons) were portraying black people. We both noticed that in every instance we could think of, all of the black characters were, overall, non-threatening and just loaded with positive imagery/behavior. Nothing really wrong with that, as, hey, positive role models are better than negative ones, eh? But, we noticed that there are a LOT of black "nerds" on Kid's TV. Cartoons/Live action too, as long as it was "meant" for kids, sure as shit the black character was super smart and super nerdy.

I asked him if he felt, as a guy who did voice work for those very same black uber-nerd characters, that this was a sort of "new racism" in that, perhaps unconsciously, the writers were once again trying to devalue the black characters by, this time, making them wimpy.

He said the thought did cross his mind, but, he feels that this new anti-stereotype was born out of fear of offending. As in, for years the media had been portraying black characters as, well, savages. Either by being simpletons, or unnaturally aggressive, etc. So, this new wave of inoffensiveness has just swung the pendulum a bit too far past normal. To avoid being associated with all the crap in the past, they've been writing a whole lot of super smart, polite, and nerdy black characters.

(?) · by **Opposing Farce** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:16 pm

It's a little more complicated than just "we're so afraid of being offensive that we've become racist in our attempts to not seem racist," which is a phenomenon that in and of itself is representative of a broader cultural misunderstanding of how racism works and what effect it has in the modern world.

(?) · by **Isaak** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:18 pm

Aramek wrote:Actually, don't gloss over it. I see the bad cartoon rap (which was fuckin' EVERYWHERE in the 90s) as more of a misunderstanding than overt racism. More just... unfamiliarity than anything.

Bunch of Old White Executives: "Gee, these kids sure like this rap stuff, run a focus group to see if our cereal mascot should wear shades and a crooked hat. Kids like that crooked hat for some reason. Then he can rap about how our cereal is great."

I think it is more that, the "we don't know anything about rap culture, so this looks exactly the same to us" than "those damned darkies and their jungle beats!" The latter is racism, the former is just cultural misunderstanding. They're not meaning to be so shitty, they just really can't tell the difference between "real" rap, and their shitty cartoon rap.

Oh, this. Definitely this. This is just people trying to be "hip and cool", like how dubstep is now everywhere because it's "cool". Nothing wrong with dubstep, but you can't just use it to promote everything.

"Hey Harold, so we have tampons to market and I was trying to come up with some good music for our ad."
"OH I KNOW!"

(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:24 pm

OpposingFarce wrote:It's a little more complicated than just "we're so afraid of being offensive that we've become racist in our attempts to not seem racist," which is a phenomenon that in and of itself is representative of a broader cultural misunderstanding of how racism works and what effect it has in the modern world.

Indeed it is, I'm just not detecting any malice in the attempts of the writers themselves in their work. :pinkieshrug:

They mean well, I think, it just comes off as silly more often than not. You see this in all forms of media, and it is, at its root, the eternal cultural misunderstanding. And, frankly, I don't know if that'll ever, ever go away.

I think the more important thing to notice is that these characters also always tend to be sidekicks.

Also, to be fair, their personalities are written as "sidekick" personalities as well. :pinkieshrug:

(?) · by **numsOic** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:39 pm

Isaak wrote:"Hey Harold, so we have tampons to market and I was trying to come up with some good music for our ad."
"OH I KNOW!"

I dare you to make this.

(?) · by **Frosthawk** (?) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:26 pm

I'm pretty much open to every musical genre in existence - except crunkcore, that bullshit needs to crawl back into the cesspool from which it arose. I mean, there are always genres that I will like better than others, but I look at genres as more of a vehicle of self-expression - a means to an end - rather than the destination itself. At least, when it's done right. (Certain genre) for the sake of (certain genre) will always take on a lower quality to me, and its relatively obvious when that's the case. But yeah, there's a potential for something great across every genre.

Also vice versa for genres I like. I think I've said before in here that I'm a huge fan of metal.

I like metal so much for two major reasons.

1.) I've been attracted to minor melodies and keys since I was about four. Since metal employs minor key more than any other genre I can think of, it was sort of a natural fit.
2.) The combination of the intensity of massive guitars mixed with well-crafted song writing is one of the most beautiful sounds in the world to me.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't bans in the genre that I really hate. Like, Aramek mentioned Cannibal Corpse earlier - yeah, I fucking hate them. That's an example of brutal for the sake of brutal. It's just... mindlessly angry. No offense if there are any fans here. :v:

But I also think the abrasive textures of that kind of thing - when used correctly - can create something much bigger, something very powerful. Like in this song (in my opinion), which is one of the most powerful songs I've ever heard.

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Well, at the end of the day, music is really subjective and you can't force everyone to like something you like, and you can't like everything. But I like giving everything a shot! :yay:

(?) · by **Ragnar** (?) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:09 am

Frosthawk wrote:2.) The combination of the intensity of massive guitars mixed with well-crafted song writing is one of the most beautiful sounds in the world to me.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't bans in the genre that I really hate. Like, Aramek mentioned Cannibal Corpse earlier - yeah, I fucking hate them. That's an example of brutal for the sake of brutal. It's just... mindlessly angry. No offense if there are any fans here.

But I also think the abrasive textures of that kind of thing - when used correctly - can create something much bigger, something very powerful. Like in this song (in my opinion), which is one of the most powerful songs I've ever heard.

Agreed agreed agreed, especially the thing about beauty, although my only problem with Cannibal Corpse is the voice, which, well, kind of bores me. It doesn't engage me at all, even if I like the instruments and tunes and stuff. Anyway, yeah, metal is beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZC_9wRZ1x0 (Linked because the image is NSFW)

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(40 Watt Sun is the only metal band I can think of where I've liked the lyrics)

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Not metal: cool free album. Some kind of electronica. http://cutrecords.bandcamp.com/album/love-ep

(?) · by **Pink Himalayan Salt** (?) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:49 am

Isaak wrote:"Hey Harold, so we have tampons to market and I was trying to come up with some good music for our ad."
"OH I KNOW!"

I'm kind of disappointed you didn't link to an actual commercial.

(?) · by **Pocket** (?) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:05 am

Aramek wrote:See, like, I don't really care for most Metal music because, to me, it all sounds like angry Cannibal Corpse stuff. I know it isn't, and, I know there's a hundred different genres of Metal itself, but, I, honestly, have a hard time listening to most of it.

You bring up an interesting point: Every single self-proclaimed metalhead I've ever met on the Internet has specifically been a fan of the darker varieties of metal: death metal, black metal, metalcore, whatever. Now, as someone who, as I may have mentioned before, got a lot of my taste in music filtered through Guitar Hero, I've discovered that I really like '70s-'80s style heavy metal. Anything from Kiss to Bon Jovi to Van Halen to Poison. I know that genre gets enough respect that its biggest hits are unironically called "classics" nowadays, so I'm wondering if it's still kicking around in the underground/indie scene anywhere. I'm familiar with The Darkness, but they were only around for a couple years.

(?) · by **Aramek** (?) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:19 am

Update for all 0 of you who needed to know, just now got back from the Electric Six concert. Sore as all hell, ears still ringing, and had the time of my life.

I just want to let you all know that, I love you all very, very much. *hug*

(?) · by **Pink Himalayan Salt** (?) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:29 am

Aramek wrote:I just want to let you all know that, I love you all very, very much. *hug*

Aramek are you drunk?

(?) · by **londonarbuckle** (?) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:34 am

Aramek's song

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(?) · by **Super Karoru** (?) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:49 am

Pink Himalayan Salt wrote:Aramek are you drunk?

He doesn't seem much different than usual. :iamapony:

(?) · by **Pink Himalayan Salt** (?) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Pink Himalayan Salt wrote:I'm kind of disappointed you didn't link to an actual commercial.

Also I've been listening to this song over and over again because I really like it for thanks for linking!

Super Karoru wrote:He doesn't seem much different than usual.

You were supposed to respond with "Aramek is DEAD" don't you know anything about memes gosh

(?) · by **Frosthawk** (?) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:55 am

Ragnar34 wrote: Anyway, yeah, metal is beautiful.

Hell yeah. Great links in your post, by the way - 40 Watt Sun and Oathbreaker in particular really caught my interest. Two more bands to add to my library! :yay:

Fake edit: Man Oathbreaker is awesome.

(?) · by **Ragnar** (?) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:12 am

Well then have some more.

YOB is hard for me to describe because I haven't actually gone out and bought this album, which is something I really should do when I have the extra cash. I like them, and they got a lot of good reviews when the latest album came out.

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Neurosis invented post-metal. Note: this track is a slow burner.

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Baroness is sludgy, fun Southern metal with an unusually laid-back tone that's more present in some songs than in others. This one is more straightforward metal; "Ogeechee Hymnal", on the other hand, is more unusual and honestly rather pretty. "Aleph", meanwhile, is so heavy that it violates most 18-wheeler weight limits and must be transported by other, more laborious means.

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further listening:

Gojira (French envirometal/groove metal; catchy, brutal and satisfyingly sentimental; "All the Tears" has a cool music video with silhouette paper puppets)
Borknagar (Northern European, and it shows--"Colossus" is a cool place to start)
Mastodon (wrote an album about Moby Dick and it was damned good; "Sleeping Giant", a song on a later album, is a religious experience; ditto for "The Sparrow")
Hail!Hornet (quintessential Southern Metal)
Isis (a genre unto themselves; recently broke up)
Battle Of Mice/Julie Christmas (Interesting female vocalist who is so good at getting into the "psychotic ex-girlfriend" character that I'm not 100% sure she's kidding)
Mael Mordha (Celtic doom; "Winds of One Thousand Winters" is cool)
Krallice (released a free EP of three cover songs in memory of their friend, who took his own life)
Sleep (stoner metal; released a 60 minute track)

(?) · by **Hollow** (?) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:42 pm

Aramek wrote:See, like, I don't really care for most Metal music because, to me, it all sounds like angry Cannibal Corpse stuff. I know it isn't, and, I know there's a hundred different genres of Metal itself, but, I, honestly, have a hard time listening to most of it.

Have you heard anything by Metallica? They're pretty "soft" metal-wise. In fact, you could say their most infamous album (the black album) is just hard rock. Master of Puppets is their best album though, and again, it's not angry scary metal. It's thrash metal. Speaking of thrash, Megadeth is pretty "soft" as well depending on what song you listen to (if you ever see this Dave, please do not get angry), like their singles from the late 90s.

Slayer is thrash as well though, and they're pretty scary. I like several different genres of metal, except nu-metal (please fucking die in a fire), and I have no idea if screamo is considered metal or not, but that's pretty much my most hated genre EVER. Besides pirate metal, that is. Do not get me started on dumbass genres I can go on forever.

I admittedly don't know you all that well Aramek, but judging from your posts you'd most likely enjoy what I call cheesy metal. I have no idea what its real genre is, but it's like...Journey but with harder guitars. :lol:

That's the best way I can explain it. Take Iron Savior, for instance...an entire album based on a theme about a giant robot (or something). So cheesy, I love the band though.

I also like Cannibal Corpse, but mainly because they don't take themselves seriously. I think you're like myself and can't take the "cookie monster vocals" as my best friend calls them. I can deal with them some of the time, but some bands are just bad at it. Especially the ones with female lead singers.

Regardless, I have friends who are far better at this whole metal thing than I am. I'm just a standard rock n' roll type, but I lump pretty much anything with guitars into "rock n' roll", so. :pinkieshrug:

I'm always bad at genres.

Re: the rap discussion from earlier. I do hate rap, but only today's rap. It seems to have all the soul taken out of it. It's like after Puff Daddy (or whatever he decides to call himself this week) got huge, everything went downhill. But really, all music seems to have gone down this path, not just rap. I can barely stand the radio these days.

(?) · by **Pocket** (?) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:48 pm

"Cookie Monster vocals"... I'll have to remember that. :lol:

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