Steven Universe: here we are in the Future

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:12 pm

There's actually a YouTube video that shows that.

So last night cartoon Network promised that the new episode would be up on the app today. The crewniverse were under that impression too but it's not and the app is bugged

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:50 pm

Episode is up on CN site if you have a cable login.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by West Filly (?) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:07 pm

I used to be part of an evangelical church and I gotta say, White Diamond touches on some pretty raw memories.

"We're all so glad you're back"

This is the most terrifying they could have made her.
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:20 pm

Is that GlaDOS doing White's voice?

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by West Filly (?) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:25 pm

Yes.
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:17 pm

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by West Filly (?) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:33 pm

Of course she hasn't left homeworld in an eon, Pink is her legs. That's why they're cheering, isn't it? They need the mobile oppression palace mobile again so they can fix the broken planets, starting with their own.

But of course Pink is the legs. It allows for the required cooperation between the pilots of the gem ships to form an analogy for a basic social contract in which white is the ignorant ruling class, yellow and blue are the executive and judiciary, and Steven represents the will of the people.
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by West Filly (?) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:47 pm

Or they could use the gem zord to oppress the galaxy.

Imagine a giant pink boot stamping on a man's face forever.

Steven I know pacifism and being nice are your deal but you can literally kick a moon like it's a football now.
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:53 pm

"LEGS from here to Homeworld"

:-I I just got it.


Probably the biggest revelation was the fact that White Diamond wasn't surprised to see Pink return and had faked the whole thing.

"Get everything out of your system?"

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:06 am

Cartoon Universe (@CartoonUV) Tweeted:
As pointed out by @deepcut5 to me, White Diamond and White Pearl have the same voice actor! #stevenuniverse #suspoilers https://t.co/yp453mca2f
White diamond is not voiced by the actress of glados...

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Void Chicken (?) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:30 am

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Probably the biggest revelation was the fact that White Diamond wasn't surprised to see Pink return and had faked the whole thing.

"Get everything out of your system?"
Yet White was okay with blasting the Earth after Pink's "shattering". If she knew all along, that's a heck of a prank to pull on Yellow and Blue.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Ghost of Ember (?) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:03 am

Man, I'm used to Steven Universe's truncated story beats but that really felt like a cliff notes version of a 22 minute episode.

Re: White Diamond, anyone who's had to deal with an unstable and domineering matriarch has heard this cadence and the false concern overlaying a dismissive attitude. Its no wonder people are making the comparison with GLaDOS. I will say GLaDOS was apparently based off of Erik Wolpaw's experiences with his grandmother, and the distance GLaDOS tends to portray is more in line with a grandmother figure. GLaDOS definitely resonates with me more as a trauma catharsis for that reason.

White Diamond's familiarity and use of a pet name (ostensibly affectionate but clearly intended to infantilize and demean) however does strike me as more motherly.

From the interviews I've read, Rebecca Sugar has been pretty up front about her relationship with her brother being awesome, and her relationship with her father at least being passingly positive. After this I must wonder if her relationship with her mother is so copacetic.
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by West Filly (?) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:45 am

Lots of nice little details in this episode which can be missed.

Garnet has wedding rings now. You see them when she's handing the cat to Greg. When centi shows up all corrupted, her jaw drops and she gasps the moment she recognises the diamonds.

However if you look at the house in the background it seems to have been magically repaired despite taking a gem ship karate chop last episode.
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by West Filly (?) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:50 am

Theory: White Diamond can't see and can only sense gems. She can't hear and can only telepathically communicate with gems despite that she outwardly speaks. Gems can't disobey white diamond or ignore her, even the other diamonds. Rose chose to become part human because an organic mind would be able to bypass the hardcoding within a gem that forces them to obey. The reason white ignores Steven completely is because his gem was having a separate conversation with her, and its hardcoding is to give the "yes, ma'am" answers.

Also if Pearl was bugged like some people are suggesting, she's done for. It's very easy to interpret the whole rebellion as Pearl's idea and to make her an example.
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:34 am

I love how during tKe off that Pearl is :v: , Ame and Connie are like :pinkieshrug: yellow is :facehoof: and Blue is :-I

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:37 pm

They should license this for White's theme song.


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Theory: White Diamond can't see and can only sense gems. She can't hear and can only telepathically communicate with gems despite that she outwardly speaks. Gems can't disobey white diamond or ignore her, even the other diamonds. Rose chose to become part human because an organic mind would be able to bypass the hardcoding within a gem that forces them to obey. The reason white ignores Steven completely is because his gem was having a separate conversation with her, and its hardcoding is to give the "yes, ma'am" answers.

Also if Pearl was bugged like some people are suggesting, she's done for. It's very easy to interpret the whole rebellion as Pearl's idea and to make her an example.
I don't know if I buy that theory. That almost goes into the gem belief that Pink is in there somewhere. Or Pearl thinking Rose was trying to get out when Steven was a Baby. If she was talking to Steven's gem, I think it would be saying the same thing Steven was.
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White diamond is not voiced by the actress of glados...

But MAN does it work without sounding much different.


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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Void Chicken (?) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:34 am

It's odd that the Diamonds were playing up how nasty White's temper is, and how furious she would be, yet whatever we got was clearly not that. If White's pissed off, she hid it damn well.

I initially thought it was strange that the Diamonds of all people would let Steven boss them around, until a post elsewhere made me realize why.

"I'm just as important as you!"
"Then why don't you act like it, Pink?!"

Pink begged for a colony of her own. She pleaded to preserve life on Earth. Despite her insistence that she was equal to Blue and Yellow, she acted like their inferior, looking for permission she didn't actually need. No wonder they blew her off.

Fast forward six thousand years. Steven demands that the corruption be cured. He dictates that they will travel to Homeworld. Pink is finally, finally acting like a Diamond! Blue and Yellow care too much about "her" to question the authority she's actually asserting for once.

It does make me wonder. Suppose six thousand years ago, Pink had put her foot down and said, "Life on Earth will be spared because I am a Diamond and I order the colony stopped!" Would it have happened? Would the whole war and the corruption all have been prevented if Pink had just acted like a Diamond?

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:16 am

Ooh temper isn't always explosive. Temper experiences severe over-calm is just as dangerous. Hell, with what White was saying... It's like a parent chastising a child and sending them to their room. Calm anger is worse than yellows electric anger.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by West Filly (?) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:59 am

White's obviously not explosive aggressive like yellow, which means she's either implosive or worse, passive. There are forms of violence that do not involve shouting or hitting, slow and horrible forms of violence. Notice that her Pearl appears to be a china doll in which she's trapped her Pearl, which is why she has cracked. If that Pearl still has her mind, that's horrible. If that Pearl doesn't still have her mind, that's horrible. If she's not a doll or statue, she has to consciously hold that awful pose, and that's horrible.

Going back to passive aggression, "did you get everything out of your system?" is a passive aggressive way to say "we now expect you to behave." "we're all so glad you're back" could well mean "you're not leaving for a while."

Also if you read into it, Steven is now a prisoner. The black and white lines under white diamond are bars, and the bubble she carries steven in looks like a reference to The Prisoner.

"Oh but your ship is so old. We simply must upgrade it at once. Why it'll only take it out of action for a short while."
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by West Filly (?) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:42 am

Also if White actually gave some punishment to Pink Diamond, it'd be over with and Blue and Yellow would have no motive to comply with White Diamond beyond the usual fear they have of her. If White Diamond can keep Blue and Yellow in limbo, thinking there's some awful punishment in store for Pink, they're going to be confessing their sins and begging to be held responsible themselves. After all, Blue believes Pink has been punished enough having lived on Earth with gem monsters this whole time. As for Yellow, we know that deep down she blames herself.

And Pearl is really in trouble once White has scared Blue and Yellow enough. If White wants to make an example and finish this episode, a diamond isn't worth shattering over this, but it's so easy to pin the blame on Pearl if you start asking non questions like "whose idea was it to go gallivanting about the Earth in the form of a Rose Quartz?" White could even use this information to tease Blue and Yellow.

It wasn't your idea to go to Earth in the form of a Rose Quartz, was it? so it's not your fault. And of course Blue and Yellow wouldn't know that White is talking about Pearl, so they'd be imagining the worst for Pink.

Or it could play the other way. Pearl could offer herself as a sacrifice, but that'd be too dark IMO.
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:00 pm

Steven: β€œI bet when Mom took off, it was pretty graceful, huh?”

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

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Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:00 pm
Steven: β€œI bet when Mom took off, it was pretty graceful, huh?”

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Heh, that one got a chuckle out of me.

So. What does anyone else think about White Diamond?

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:40 pm

Erythema wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:56 pm
Heh, that one got a chuckle out of me.

So. What does anyone else think about White Diamond?
I think they tried to get Betty White. :smirk:

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Madeline (?) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:18 pm

Steven Universe will be back for weekly episodes starting December 17.
Hid the tweet in case nobody wanted to see a somewhat spoilery image.

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Post by The Doctor (?) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:53 am

Steven rockin' it. :dwi:

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:28 pm

I'm so excited, they also released the titles!
And the best part is that it's NOT A BOMB

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Wayoshi (?) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:46 pm

So this is season 6, right? And apparently we may get 9-10 seasons?

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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:59 pm

Yes the finale of season 5 and start of season 6

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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:47 pm

a 2 1/2 minute intro to SU. interesting.

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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:03 am

According to the RoundTable YouTube channel, awstruckvox beleive s that the playlist that can put on the app with key episodes to prepare for diamond days implies the return to alot of characters...

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Post by Strangething (?) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:50 am

Behold the Fryman Authority.

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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:02 pm

The pebbles were absolutely adorable in that episode.

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Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:28 pm

:starity: Well that escalated quickly.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:33 pm

So, there's a filed off TV commercial promo of the next(?) episode out there. 1 hour special.



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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:08 pm

Never a SU episode set without poorly timed filler

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:17 pm

:anticipation: This show can be hilariously frustrating sometimes.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Wayoshi (?) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:38 pm

I think CN scheduling has more to blame than anything the show proper did here. A breather episode makes plenty of sense. But I see fans upset because they wanted the song in this episode to be sung by someone after a year and a half of huge speculation.

A week off now before the hour true bomb is dumb as heck, but I guess they wanted it on the holiday Monday.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:50 pm

3 songs have been leaked that are in today's episode.... One I don't even know fit..... But I'm.... Yeah :-I

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