That’s pretty impressive. Now I’m going to see if anyone around here has one like that yet.Factory Factory wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:57 pmI had an impossible burger. The burger was pretty veggie-heavy in the first place, but that said... It really did taste and texture like a regular old burg. If you hadn't told me, I probably wouldn't have known it wasn't beef. Not the finest burg I've ever burged, but darn good.
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OK, you know that advice people give to writers, it goes something like "Is this the most interesting event in your characters' lives? If not, why aren't you telling that story?"
This is the problem with sequels.
Often, we'd already told that story, and now the only stories that are left to tell are the less interesting ones. Sometimes—as is often the case with Pixar's "big idea" movies—the movie told not only the most interesting story about its characters but the most interesting story about its entire universe. So you get movies like Monsters University or Incredibles II that can only either dial it back or try to rehash the same themes in a slightly different context.
This is the problem with sequels.
Often, we'd already told that story, and now the only stories that are left to tell are the less interesting ones. Sometimes—as is often the case with Pixar's "big idea" movies—the movie told not only the most interesting story about its characters but the most interesting story about its entire universe. So you get movies like Monsters University or Incredibles II that can only either dial it back or try to rehash the same themes in a slightly different context.
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I will defend Monsters University until my deathbed because it spins a surprisingly neat story with the premise and ends up having one of the most valuable and grownup lessons I've seen in a kids movie
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Perrydotto wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:49 pmI will defend Monsters University until my deathbed because it spins a surprisingly neat story with the premise and ends up having one of the most valuable and grownup lessons I've seen in a kids movie
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I've never heard that advice given to writers and, frankly, it sounds moronic (though, to be fair, a poor enough articulation can make the best ideas sound moronic, which may be the case here).Pocket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:22 pmOK, you know that advice people give to writers, it goes something like "Is this the most interesting event in your characters' lives? If not, why aren't you telling that story?"
This is the problem with sequels.
Often, we'd already told that story, and now the only stories that are left to tell are the less interesting ones. Sometimes—as is often the case with Pixar's "big idea" movies—the movie told not only the most interesting story about its characters but the most interesting story about its entire universe. So you get movies like Monsters University or Incredibles II that can only either dial it back or try to rehash the same themes in a slightly different context.
How much poorer would we be if Terry Pratchett had decided what the most interesting event in Sam Vimes's life was and only ever told that? Just for one example. Shit, you're posting in a community that owes its entire existence to the ability of a particular set of protagonists to lend themselves to compelling, if not uniformly amazing, stories for literal years on end.
I propose the alternate advice of "make characters who have more than one episode of their lives worth reading/watching, and also don't turn it to 11 the first time around". Granted the latter may be difficult with studio suits breathing down your neck.
tl;dr: it's not a problem with sequels, it's a problem with bad writers and with Hollywood blockbusters (but I repeat myself)
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Lately I've been using a calligraphy pen to ink my drawings, and I have to say I'm really loving it.
Not to mention, my lineart is super THICK now
Not to mention, my lineart is super THICK now
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I’ve never gotten that advice, not in workshops, classes, or any of the seminars I had to attend, fwiw. Not that I’m any kind of a big deal (I’m a nobody) but it’s relevant because it was my major.Bigdog wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:17 amI've never heard that advice given to writers and, frankly, it sounds moronic (though, to be fair, a poor enough articulation can make the best ideas sound moronic, which may be the case here).
How much poorer would we be if Terry Pratchett had decided what the most interesting event in Sam Vimes's life was and only ever told that? Just for one example. Shit, you're posting in a community that owes its entire existence to the ability of a particular set of protagonists to lend themselves to compelling, if not uniformly amazing, stories for literal years on end.
I propose the alternate advice of "make characters who have more than one episode of their lives worth reading/watching, and also don't turn it to 11 the first time around". Granted the latter may be difficult with studio suits breathing down your neck.
tl;dr: it's not a problem with sequels, it's a problem with bad writers and with Hollywood blockbusters (but I repeat myself)
Everything I was taught centered around character development. You have to satisfy the basics and know what your characters want, what they need, and what they value to start, and then you ask more sophisticated questions and start doing character notes to flesh them out a little more. But you can make a basic story by knowing those first three answers and then asking, “okay, why can’t she have what she wants?” You’ll have a simple conflict which can fuel a short story, at least.
And a well-drawn character can be involved in more than just one story. I have seen a lot of people in the sci-fi and fantasy community tell aspiring writers that they should follow the “Hollywood model” and have their characters complete their character development by the end of their trilogy or series, and that’s also terrible advice, which might explain why so many sci-fi and fantasy doorstoppers (and Hollywood movies going all the way back to the beginning of Hollywood) are fucking awful. People do change over time. It’s better storytelling to know your cast well and to focus on what they are trying to achieve in the current story.
Even if your story is intended to be a one-and-done for whatever reason, your story will still be better if you can imagine what the characters might be doing 10 years after the story ends. Characters who cease to be interesting when they achieve one goal are shallow and uninteresting in the first place.
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If you’re writing experimental stuff where flat characters are part of the point then disregard the above. also if you know more about writing than I do, because someone here must
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At 50 degrees, neither Snow Miser nor Heat Miser are happy.
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Yes, but at that point they’re equally miserable so at least there’s equilibrium.
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It's supposed to be -2 F (-19 C) here tomorrowMechanical Ape wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:30 pmAt 50 degrees, neither Snow Miser nor Heat Miser are happy.
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if I entered into a relationship with an effeminate Jewish male
would that make me a girly boy's burly goy?
would that make me a girly boy's burly goy?
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I got an least another inch of snow too, gotta do sidewalks and driveway again today!
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There's more to see than can ever be seen, more to do than can ever be done.
Having the Internet helps a lot though.
Having the Internet helps a lot though.
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This seems like a good occasion to mention that -40 degrees is the same in both F and C scales.
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Huh, really? How come?Factory Factory wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:12 pmThis seems like a good occasion to mention that -40 degrees is the same in both F and C scales.
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That's just where they happen to meet. 0 C is water's freezing point, which is 32 in F. 0 F is an equal parts ice/saltwater mixture, because Fahrenheit was a weirdo.
100 C is water's boiling point, but 100 F was supposed to be the normal human body temperature, but Fahrenheit got it wrong. It's 98.6 F.
Between having different zeroes and different magnitude to the units, they only align at -40.
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Yeah, C = 5/9 (F - 32). For C = F, the solution to the equation is -40.
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If you want to know why an imperial unit is weird, assume it's because some asshole tied it to a unit that makes no fucking sense to anyone but him.
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i always assumed imperial units were weird because they were all clones, at least early onOrange Fluffy Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:01 pmIf you want to know why an imperial unit is weird, assume it's because some asshole tied it to a unit that makes no fucking sense to anyone but him.
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Also because the temperature of the mixture will automatically stabilize.Orange Fluffy Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:14 pmThat's just where they happen to meet. 0 C is water's freezing point, which is 32 in F. 0 F is an equal parts ice/saltwater mixture, because Fahrenheit was a weirdo.
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I hate the imperial system for the most part. Feet, miles, tablespoons, cups, pounds, ounces, etc. are a pain to deal with and convert. But I will defend Fahrenheit to the death. 99% of what we use temperature for is the ambient air temp, and Fahrenheit provides a more accurate scale, where 0 is an extreme low that rarely gets lower and 100 is an extreme high that rarely gets higher.
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All hail the Kelvin scale that provides always positive values.
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Except if you're doing something like working with lasers and the quantum mechanical definition of temperature. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature
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