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Stormy Nights 3: Darkened Skies

Post by Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:39 pm

Or, the one where everyone agrees that VoidChicken is dragging this out too long and should stop trying to ride the fame train.
Or, the one where it is a cipher with the Constitution that leads to Incan Gold.
Or, the one where Stormy is replaced by a wyvern for the higher speed cap.
Or, the one where there is a lot of dialogue, Stormy rants about sand, and loses a hoof.
Or, the one where one of the three things above isn't true as VoidChicken is persumably not George Lucas.
Or, the one where OFSheep stops this gag on the 6th iteration.

But Redeye is listed as one of the approvers as Void REALLY wanted him there and I guess Redeye is okay with it so whatever, less work on my part.

Title: Stormy Nights 3: Darkened Skies
Type: Slice of Life
Synopsis: If you liked Stormy Nights, and tolerated Stormy Nights 2, then you might as well read part 3. Stormy wanders Equestria, running away from the consequences of her actions. In her travels, she finds the prospect of a new life and a new home, but in the end, no pony can escape her destiny.
Link: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/23527/S ... ened-Skies
Author: VoidChicken
Submitted by: VoidChicken
Approved by: Orange Fluffy Sheep, Redeye
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Post by Aurora (?) » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:42 pm

If by "less work" you mean "too impatient to wait for Chunky to get home". :rainbert:
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Post by Redeye (?) » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:12 pm

Chunky wrote:If by "less work" you mean "too impatient to wait for Chunky to get home". :rainbert:


Pah, I agreed to be one of the approvers on this from the first time I read it. Wouldn't have it any other way. :chillin:

People should all read this series, by the way. It's really good.
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Post by numsOic (?) » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:31 pm

who keeps churning these out anyway this is worse than rowling

I swear one of these days I'll read these things.
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Post by Kraps (?) » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:19 pm

I read it! Yay for Stormy! BTW Void if you write another story with a pony with low self-esteem I will hunt you down.
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Post by Redeye (?) » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:51 pm

Kraps wrote:I read it! Yay for Stormy! BTW Void if you write another story with a pony with low self-esteem I will hunt you down.


Well, we agreed that if he wrote one I'd do the next one, but so far none of the prompts have really tickled my fancy.
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Post by Geomancing (?) » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:05 am

Well make Void write along side someone else; if he's left to his own devices it takes him six months per chapter. Competition keeps him quick.

Good to see some happiness finally come into Stormy's life.
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Post by numsOic (?) » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:56 am

Everyone write their own fan-made Stormy 4 so Void's gonna have to come up with his own official Stormy 4 where Stormy finally dies forever.
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Post by The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:15 pm

I didn't read it in detail, but I did read it over my lunch break. My sperging post will have to wait until I get a better look at it, but I was feeling pretty :gonkity: :fluttersmith: :saddash: when I started reading. I was :memories: by the time I was finished. Thank you, I needed that. :-D

numsOic wrote:Everyone write their own fan-made Stormy 4 so Void's gonna have to come up with his own official Stormy 4 where Stormy finally dies forever.


I will write it. It will be called Stormy 4: The Stormining
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Post by Weeks (?) » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:53 am

Void made me read this.

He also made me do fanart of his character. That is just mean.

(As I've mentioned elsewhere, this is pretty damn great.)
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Post by The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 pm

So, let's take a minute to talk about romance. Romance novels are almost always universally terrible. Twilight, the most recent romance phenomina, is an objectively bad novel. Not because of sparkly vampires or other absurdities contained within, but because adverbs sprout like weeds, the writing is wooden at best and the author spends too much time telling us about things. We're told a lot about how pretty Edward is, but we're not to my knowledge, ever shown his grooming habits. This is because most romance is written with much the same mindset as porn is created with. Get to the climax quickly, and then heap on more and more until you've filled your allotted word or time limit and then check out quickly as possible with the profits in hand. There's the same mindless desire and instant fulfillment. There's also the same general level of production values. There's a reason these things are called porn for women.

I'm afraid you don't have much future as a romance writer Voidchicken. You would be torn to shreds for spending far too much time developing the character people are supposed to project onto before getting to the 'good stuff.' I mean, the third and final story? Get serious.

For anyone who doesn't have the required appetite for the Smoopy-doo and Sweetums saccharine romance angle, romance is usually a distraction and generally not well written. How many times have you been to a movie and there's a love interest angle that has very little development but they ride off happily ever after anyways because romance is what appeals to females ages 11 and up? Too many, I imagine.

That said, there is such thing a thing as good romance. Usually it is the result of clear character development and phrased in terms that are outside the usual romance tropes. There's a scene in the movie 'In a lonesome place' that describes good romance writing perfectly. The main character, played by Humphry Bogart, is making breakfast for his distressed girlfriend. ' A good love scene should be about something else besides love. For instance, this one. Me fixing grapefruit. You sitting over there, dopey, half-asleep. Anyone looking at us could tell we're in love.'

(Of course, the scene is actually about him trying to convince himself they're still in love while she's beginning to grow afraid of him. Which is the ultimate example of what he's trying to illustrate. Don't make the subtext the main text.)

This is where Stormy Nights 3 comes in to the picture. This is to a large degree a romance story, but it doesn't read like one. The first overt hint of it we get is Spyglass giving her a flower, but he does so while buying flowers for his mothers grave. While this might be mildly off putting in real life, depending on context, in the story itself it makes a perfect excuse to covertly introduce the romance angle. The weakest part of this scene is the blush. An overt line about a smile would've probably sufficed.

The story is full of writing like this, so I don't think I need to call out any more examples, for the most part, the romance is both believable and covert enough at first as to not to get annoying. It develops naturally, and doesn't feel forced. This is good writing.

One scene I do want to point out though:

Stormy looked at her sandy legs and dirty robe. “You call this covered? This is nothing! I grew up in the desert! I got sand in so many places as a filly I had to make up words for the parts of my body they got in. And this! This sand is cool and wet. The desert was HOT. I had to lug water around everywhere to keep myself from getting heatstroke or something.”


Compare this to:"I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth."

One of these things is not like the other.

Now, onto quibbles.

Here is the one thing I didn't like about this story. Romance as redemption. It's a common theme that crops up in literature, and it's clear you try to sidestep it by making Celestia the ultimate source of redemption, (never mind that the character never is in severe need of it beyond her own delusions). That said, I can't help but feeling there's an undercurrent of this running through the story. I'm not sure what you could do to remove it, but it's a pet peeve of mine.

This passage in particular felt rather awkward to me:
With the high sun pounding on the water, the evaporation potential became overwhelming. There was the possibility of some very severe weather in that ocean. And no pegasi around to exploit it. Such wasted potential.


For one, it's a little too dry. You say evaporation potential and I begin to feel like I'm reading a science textbook There's also the repeated 'potential.' Repetition is good for emphasis, but here it just feels awkward, like you couldn't find proper wording. I understand you were trying to express a complex idea and falling on more concise language to do so, but that's no good for the sense of longing or regret you're trying to evoke here. Some more actiony verbs would have given it a lot more flow at the very least. Here's how I might write something like this in my typical purple style:

The sun's heat bore down heavy on the bay, and the water evaporated, seeping into the air. Stormy could feel the moisture in the air all around her, sharp and ready and full of potential, like a static charge. Even a single pegasus could create massive, grand storms of endless water with this bountiful wealth. None ever would.


Another thing, there's a clear subtext going on with the Sherlock Holmes reference, but I didn't really get it? Care to explain? I'm tired and cranky.

Overall this was a good conclusion to the series. Things come full circle with Strawberry. The characters are well developed although I felt like Stormy could have used a little toning down on the emoness meter in this one. More pancakes, less sobbing.

What can I say? It was well written and it made me smile.
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Post by VoidChicken (?) » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:37 pm

Around the pre-planning stages for Stormy 2/3, I did get curious as to whether I could actually write a story with a romance element that would pass Ponygoons' standards, so this was a bit of an experiment there.

With the flower, I did toss around possible reactions to it. But I figured the blush would be justified in that this was the first romantic gesture Stormy's received in her life, completely out of the blue. Hey worthless person whom no-one will ever love, this guy is actually interested in you. Wait, what?

I swear to god I didn't have Star Wars in mind when I wrote the sand rant.

Romance as redemption? I suppose it is. Although IMO the story would have worked out more or less the same if Spyglass was simply a good friend. Celestia... originally she was the one that pointed Stormy in the right direction for her to realize that she can follow her destiny. But the editors thought it worked better for it to be Spyglass. IMO they were right.

But I set up the Celestia meeting back in 2, so might as well run with it. Maybe I should have dropped it. Not the first time I would have dropped a plot line. Stormy's interest in magical theory (all that unicorn crap rubbed off on her as a kid) would have been a major part in 3 before I changed Spyglass from a scientist into a shopkeeper.

I did make sure with the 'don't deserve this' thought that Stormy's deeper issues didn't just disappear. She'll be carrying that low self-esteem and insecurity her whole life.

Evaporation. Right. I tend to micromanage some passages, and words and phrases have a nasty habit of repeating until I look at the big picture. Guess this one slipped through the cracks.

Finally, for Forelock. I wasn't angling for any particular subtlety there. It just helped establish that Spyglass was an avid mystery reader, with a joke being that Stormy interrupted him just when it was getting good. And it made for a nice callback there at the end.

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Post by The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:49 pm

VoidChicken wrote:I swear to god I didn't have Star Wars in mind when I wrote the sand rant.

Romance as redemption? I suppose it is. Although IMO the story would have worked out more or less the same if Spyglass was simply a good friend. Celestia... originally she was the one that pointed Stormy in the right direction for her to realize that she can follow her destiny. But the editors thought it worked better for it to be Spyglass. IMO they were right.


Well, it's better then the Star Wars sand rant, which was kind of the point. You at the very least outclass Lucas as a writer. Congrats.

I agree on the Spyglass as a friend, but didn't feel like I could bring that up without undermining my point. :pinkieshrug:

Keeping Celestia in was the right call. It's the only thing that prevents full romance as redemption, and romance as redemption is annoying. :rainbert:

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Sorry Voidchicken, your opinion doesn't matter. You're the author, which means you're dead. I'm writing a thesis about how its all a metaphor for Stormy being the Watson to Spyglass' Holmes and you are implying a homosexual subtext to the relationship in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's books.
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Post by jqnexx (?) » Tue May 08, 2012 2:34 am

Why was the link removed, if you don't mind my asking?
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Post by Tailspin (?) » Tue May 08, 2012 9:52 am

jqnexx wrote:Why was the link removed, if you don't mind my asking?


Void is putting his stories up on FimFiction, so I'm guessing he probably wants that link to be here when he puts up the story.
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Post by VoidChicken (?) » Tue May 08, 2012 4:04 pm

Yup. As soon as Stormy 3 is up on FiMFiction (and complete, because of the no-incomplete-stories-rule), I'll restore the link. Sorry about that.
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