Crazy Observation/Speculation/Tehoofry Thread

[Wonkadoo]

The reason Celestia Lost in the battle against Chrysalis

There was never actually any danger in the first place. Celestia actually asked Chrysalis to show up to help make the SUPER DULL wedding more interesting.

(Because Chrysalis and Celestia are actually best buddies.)

Celestia wanted to get back at Twilight Sparkle for sending her all those creepy fanfics.

mod edit: don't reference Molestia, thanks.

[jqnexx]

I wonder if it would be possible for ponies to crystalize love (and/or love poison) into rock candy and sell it to the Changelings so they wouldn't have to steal love.

[Daionus The 23rd:3]

I think love is consumed the same way a vampire consumes blood.

[Highbrow DashAJ, Rarity! What's happening?]

I think love is consumed the same way a vampire consumes blood.

Now I'm picturing something like this, only with changelings:

Click here to view video.

[Grilox]

I've always assumed Changelings just consume love. They don't steal it. In other words, anyone could be an endless source of food for them.

[Wonkadoo]

Somewhere in Twilight's library is a book called Daring Do and the Mare of Mystery.

"And See! At the end, Daring Do says she's learned a lesson in humility, because ordinary ponies can do what a special pony can if they just work together!

"Excuse me for not knowing my lines."

[Mechanical ApeAnd I thought they smelled bad on the outside!]

"Crystallized love? Where I come from we call those 'diamonds', darling."

[Pocketis she just gonna go booty booty]

Over on the Allspark, someone posted this picture, wondering if the one with the helmet is some sort of officer.



What caught my eye, though, is that it looks to be made of the same material as the exoskeletal shells they all have on their backs. So I suppose either there's a special subspecies (like how hive insects have worker and soldier types) that actually grows helmet-shaped plates on their heads, or they craft their officers' helmets out of the shells of dead changelings.

...I'm leaning towards the former, for obvious reasons.

[weedgoku]

I thought the grunts' back shells were just armour too?

[thatbastardkenWant it, Need it]

Give me a lever and a place to stand and I will move the world.

The power of love is capable of moving the enemies of Equestria out of the way.

The first known demonstration of magic using the power of harmony was by Clover the Clever (Hearths Warming Eve)

Clover, the Clever

Love, the Lever.

[Applepie]

Suddenly trains in Ponyville under the Lesson Zero intro..

[jqnexx]

I was rewatching Baby Cakes and was thinking about the whole "magic surge" thing, and now I have an explanation for why that is.

Real-world horses/ponies are born able to walk in order for them to escape predators, but Equestrian ponies aren't. Obviously, they need some sort of a defense mechanism - given the danger of hydras/manticores/etc, a stronger one. Enter magic surges. Thus, a pegasus infant can fly away (using extra magic to make up for the lack of strength in his wings), a unicorn can magic herself away (most every form of magic Pumpkin Cake used could be used to escape if needed), and an earth pony could run away or buck predators in the face (not quite as useful in the case of a hydra attack, but still possibly saving you from the timber wolves).

The question is, what is the origin of this magic strength, and why would it not persist in older fillies like Sweety Bell and Scootaloo? The answer is simple - it's actually the mother's magic. When foals are born, they have a "full charge" of magic based on their mother's capabilities. Mrs Cake isn't a pegasus or a unicorn, but the magic energy is apparently universal, only its expression is different. Pound Cake is able to lift Pinkie because he's got (temporarily) the full power of an adult pegasus at his disposal. Eventually the "charge" dissipates from use and the foal must grow up in order to get back to prime-of-life level abilities.

[HeinousTests Poorly]

Like magic pony maternal antibodies! Of course!

[itinerant nomadSurprise Pedantry!]

Speaking of the mothers, most mammals with horns don't grow them until after they're born...

On a different note, where are the earth ponies in the Canterlot Guard?

[thatbastardkenWant it, Need it]

Covert Ops.

[ArtificerGoes well with All Natural Milk Naturally Flavored with Natural Flavors.]

Covert Ops.

I think I've seen a few running around. Earth pony guards.



Also, Terminator Space Marenes, obviously.

[Kiith Soban"Perception is fundamental to the Order. It guides the feet when running and climbing. Informs the hands when striking and fighting. But most important, it transforms the senses. And we begin to know the world in a different way."]

Apparently earth ponies have a knack for working with machines, so combat engineers.

[ArtificerGoes well with All Natural Milk Naturally Flavored with Natural Flavors.]

Apparently earth ponies have a knack for working with machines, so combat engineers.

I demand fanart of Big Mac rolling around in a Land Raider.

With a Techmarine suit on.

[PhoolCatKeep on Trottin']

Apparently earth ponies have a knack for working with machines, so combat engineers.

Maybe Lyra would switch class for the Gunslinger, then?

[ROBOT B9I am just about to be BRILLIANT!]

Maybe Lyra would switch class for the Gunslinger, then?

All I can think of is Lyra being Yul Brynner from Westworld.

"Sloppy with your drink?! Bartender! GET THIS GIRL A BIB!"
"You talk too much."
"Then why don't you make me shut up?!"

[Pocketis she just gonna go booty booty]

Here's a thought. You know how the characters' names are suspiciously in line with their personalities or interests? There's already been speculation that whatever cosmic force brands ponies with their cutie marks also ensures that parents give their foals appropriate names long before they have any conscious idea what they'll be like. What if, in cases where the name is a dead giveaway, it makes it obvious to them what their talent is and they're more likely to get their cutie marks at an early age.

Now look at our three cutie mark crusaders. Two have decidedly generic names, and the third has a family name. Small wonder they're the only ones in their class still struggling to figure out where their destinies lie.

[numsOic]

How many of the names are dead giveaways, anyway? They only become obvious in retrospect, if that. Rainbow Dash was the first in her class to get a cutie mark, but she could very well have ended up working at the rainbow factory instead of flying fast. Applejack's name is related to her family business, just like everyone else in her family before her, and she was still the last in her class to get a cutie mark. "Cheerilee" doesn't even make sense. And Scootaloo is good with a scoo--



...oh.

It seems to have more to do with a pony having a moment of revelation than any processes of rational thought.

[Mechanical ApeAnd I thought they smelled bad on the outside!]

Cheerilee is in deep denial about the interpretation of her cutie mark. She's supposed to be a florist.

[Grilox]

Cheeriee's cutie mark is actually three suns because she's actually Princess Celestia in disguise.

Ever seen them in the same room together???

[TailspinQueen of the skies]

Cheeriee's cutie mark is actually three suns because she's actually Princess Celestia in disguise.

Ever seen them in the same room together???

That would explain how she found out so quickly that Discord was free. She was there!

[Chaos Sonic]

So having just re-watched Friend in Deed, something occurs to me. It was theorized back then that perhaps Pinkie feeds off of other ponies' happiness somehow. Does that mean she's some kind of Changeling?

[The DoctorTurner Of All Things Timey Wimey]

So having just re-watched Friend in Deed, something occurs to me. It was theorized back then that perhaps Pinkie feeds off of other ponies' happiness somehow. Does that mean she's some kind of Changeling?

nah, she just has crippling abandonment issues.

[Wayoshi]

How many of the names are dead giveaways, anyway?

... Time Turner.

[Doctor Wheeze]

Cheeriee's cutie mark is actually three suns because she's actually Princess Celestia in disguise.

Ever seen them in the same room together???

They do have the same voice actress

[GlaziusHe finds himself through the martial arts discipline of Nokando, which he says hardens the body and turns the mind inward.]

So having just re-watched Friend in Deed, something occurs to me. It was theorized back then that perhaps Pinkie feeds off of other ponies' happiness somehow. Does that mean she's some kind of Changeling?

Well, it depends on how you want to work your metaphysics, really.

I mean, ponies feed on love. That's what brought Shining Armor back from the brink, right? It's essential for building strong hearts that won't succumb to the apathy, hatred, and darkness of the modern age.

The difference is that changelings kill love, so they can use its transformative power at their own discretion.

[thatbastardkenWant it, Need it]

Kill is probably the wrong term. The changeling queen steals the love Shining Armour has for Cadence to fuel her magic, and to weaken the barrier. The other changleings were presumably going to feed off of the strong emotions of ponies in a parasitic fashion. But they would still need the 'host' alive.

[JupiterDermatologists Hate Her!Local Apple discovers weird old trick]

That means changelings are violating McCartney's Law of Equal Exchange:

Click here to view video.

Entire textbooks of hearticle physics will have to be rewritten!

[GlaziusHe finds himself through the martial arts discipline of Nokando, which he says hardens the body and turns the mind inward.]

Kill is probably the wrong term. The changeling queen steals the love Shining Armour has for Cadence to fuel her magic, and to weaken the barrier. The other changleings were presumably going to feed off of the strong emotions of ponies in a parasitic fashion. But they would still need the 'host' alive.

Well, what do you suppose happens to the things you eat? If they're alive to start with, I doubt they survive the process.

It's ideal, of course, to slip love out but leave the heart alive. But desperation can lead to... much less surgical methods.

And the best way is to convince the heart to let go of love on its own. "You're not who I fell in love with," and all that.

[Grilox]

The difference between ponies and changelings is changelings get really strong from feeding off love, while ponies just get happy.

So it turns out changelings have no reason to be mean, thus lending credence to my theory that Celestia and Chrysalis are buddies who set up the entire wedding thing to teach Twilight and co a thing or two, to liven up the wedding, and to make sure Shining Armor and Cadence had a strong enough love to have a lasting marriage. (Since Cadence had love magic this was kinda important to make sure it was true love and not just Cadence using love magic to bring them together.)

[ArtificerGoes well with All Natural Milk Naturally Flavored with Natural Flavors.]

Princess Celestia would be the most Machiavellian cartoon leader I've ever seen.

[Ransom]

I hope it's okay to bump this thread

Now that the Crystal Empire is no longer a spoiler thread, I figured I'd rewrite some of the thoughts I had in there and add another, further demonstrating I think about this show way too much But also hopefully giving the post some reason to exist.

First:
Others were disappointed in the lack of characterization for Sombra, I actually think the pony that needed a bit more backstory was Cadance. "The Crystal Princess returns!" What did that mean? I propose that Cadance, as only the third alicorn in the show that we've seen, and one born recently, was in fact destined to rule the Crystal Empire. Her cutie mark, as other's pointed out, glowed as she took the Crystal Heart and rallied her people.

If Celestia's 'knowledge is limited' of the Empire, it's possible she and Luna knew little of it before Sombra took over and started spreading fear and hatred literally all over Equestria. My own guess is that Sombra was a despot who overthrew the alicorn princess who first ruled the Empire. Cadance is either a forgotten descendant, a reincarnation of or somehow connected to lost Crystal Royal line. Her cutie mark and talent for spreading love indicated her destiny to rule over an empire that's job is to spread love and hope all over the land. When Celestia heard the Empire had returned, she immediately told Shining Armor and Cadance to go there. She didn't know when the Empire would return, but she would have suspect it was soon.

Now to add something else:

People have speculated that Sombra corrupted Luna, but here's another thought: The Empire reflects love all over Equestria...think of the Changlings now. Couldn't you see a swarm of changlings just hanging out in the love equivalent of Equestria's magnetic belts, "tasting the rainbow?" Imagine they are doing that before Sombra. Suddenly, they're getting a mouthful of hate...then nothing. Desperate, they grow corrupted, feasting on the love from other ponies, growing mindless, never truly satisfied.

Few changlings or ponies remember how they once lived. Chrysalis knows though, and she knows that if her subjects realize the Empire's fountain of free love is back...her iron clad power of her people as the source of finding food for them is over.

[Perpetual LurkerAll shall love me and despair!]

Man, if I had known a thread like this existed, I would have posted stuff like this, this, and this here instead of the episode thread. The premier is just full of these kinds of details.

[Ransom]

Man, if I had known a thread like this existed, I would have posted stuff like this, this, and this here instead of the episode thread. The premier is just full of these kinds of details.

I assumed it was out of bounds as long as they are spoilers

Those are great points. The spectrum of how exactly friendship=magic is something us folks who like to overanalyze kids show mechanics have been hung up on since the show started.

Watching it on tv today...it does almost seem like the second dark magic use was accidental, doesn't it?

[kefkafloyd]

The spoiler moratorium only lasts until midnight PST on teh day of the episode, so you could have been posting in here the day afterwards.

[Silk_SkFriendship is leftover KFC in the fridge. Wait no, that's happiness.]

I'm not posting this in fanfic because it's just me looking for an explanation for elements in the show. In fact, until irrefutable evidence proves this not to be the case, this is officially my head-canon.
http://cheezburger.com/6772241152

Also, Cadance was banished by the King and Queen for 1000 years for using the Crystal Fair to spread love to Equestria instead of the Queen. Celestia let the banishment end so she could have a babysitter for Twilight :3. Jokes aside, at no point did I say Celestia and Luna were evil (however they are corruptible, at least in Luna's case). Sombra and Chrysalis are clearly bad, but somehow their children turned out better. They saw the oppression of the people and decided to do something about it. That's my take on it, anyway. Thoughts?