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The Ghost of Ember wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:18 pmstop posting spoilers you bastard, some people haven't seen these before
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The best thing about this spoiler is it's completely stock. Gotta love the Plymouth Super Bird.
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RIP Group B
Also RIP Group B Spectators, you crazy idiots.
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there will never be something like group b
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The IOMTT comes pretty close, and not just the motorbike races. There have been some cars tearing up Snaefell circuit from time to time.
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post more group b spoilers
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What to do when a huge piece of steel weighing at least a metric tonne is going to be travelling at over 60mph?
That's right, get a crowd of hundreds of people to stand exactly where it's coming through, see if you can all duck out of the way at the last moment.
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I should hate it. These old Japanese cars are worth a lot in stock/restored condition. They're copycats of old US muscle cars as well as being the early models in long lasting car ranges. I think this would once have been an early Nissan Skyline. It's now sliced up and garish, probably worth less than it could have been if the same efforts were put into restoring it.
I just can't hate it though. It looks like it came out of a comic book and that's awesome.
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ohhh yeahhhh that's the good stuff right in my veins goddamnWest Filly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:49 pm
What to do when a huge piece of steel weighing at least a metric tonne is going to be travelling at over 60mph?
That's right, get a crowd of hundreds of people to stand exactly where it's coming through, see if you can all duck out of the way at the last moment.
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also actually Group B cars were pretty light because they were so stripped down and had shitloads of light materials like kevlar used. it's why they were so ridiculous, high power + low mass = car go fast
Group B was purebred, glorious, insanity. it's like everyone was masturbating over how crazy fast and powerful they could make the cars with the lack of strict regulations and also innovations like four wheel drive making it far easier to handle that kind of power on low traction conditions
Group B was purebred, glorious, insanity. it's like everyone was masturbating over how crazy fast and powerful they could make the cars with the lack of strict regulations and also innovations like four wheel drive making it far easier to handle that kind of power on low traction conditions
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it was a short, but utterly insane moment in rallying history
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here;s one: snape killed jesus
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This is my issue with F1. They've gotten way too wanky with the health and safety/control/competition nonsense. Sure the cars are faster now but the raw turbo era F1 cars were thrilling in a way these new computer controlled hybrids can never beRIP Syndrome wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:16 pmalso actually Group B cars were pretty light because they were so stripped down and had shitloads of light materials like kevlar used. it's why they were so ridiculous, high power + low mass = car go fast
Group B was purebred, glorious, insanity. it's like everyone was masturbating over how crazy fast and powerful they could make the cars with the lack of strict regulations and also innovations like four wheel drive making it far easier to handle that kind of power on low traction conditions
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The bleeding edge of performance is inherently unsafe. Taking steps to mitigate those dangers isn’t wankery. Besides, there’s still plenty of risk to the drivers’ lives even if it isn’t thrilling enough for you.West Filly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:43 pmThis is my issue with F1. They've gotten way too wanky with the health and safety/control/competition nonsense. Sure the cars are faster now but the raw turbo era F1 cars were thrilling in a way these new computer controlled hybrids can never be
The thing I like about these top tier motorsports is how everything is about compromise. The most aerodynamic profile would have a driver laying completely flat watching the road through a periscope but the best visibility would come from having the drivers head up over the top of the car. The compromise is a mostly recumbent position where the driver can just barely see over the cockpit/nose. Other compromises are the wings’ AOA and ride height/ground effect and tire rubber hardness. There’s an incredible amount of thought put into the trade offs that come from adjusting one thing or another and in that regard it’s more of a contest of wits, like chess, instead of brute force, like arm wrestling. If the latter is the thrill you’re looking for, maybe look into top fuel drag racing. That shit is purestrain “more is more” although there’s a still a lot of intellectual nuance there. It’s just a lot louder and faster and louder and much louder on top of that.
Actually you know what, watch a tractor pull. I don’t think those dudes have any rules whatsoever.
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It's not just safety that has intervened, add ecology and this need to make the "competition fair". You end up losing some real gems: turbine engines in indycar; rotary engines in group C; two stroke engines across motorbike racing; mechanical fan based downforce improvement systems across FIM motorsport. Maybe being a fan of motorbike road racing makes be biased here, but I feel like car racing has been playing it too safe at the expense of some glorious machines.Dong Strongly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:34 amThe bleeding edge of performance is inherently unsafe. Taking steps to mitigate those dangers isn’t wankery. Besides, there’s still plenty of risk to the drivers’ lives even if it isn’t thrilling enough for you.
The thing I like about these top tier motorsports is how everything is about compromise. The most aerodynamic profile would have a driver laying completely flat watching the road through a periscope but the best visibility would come from having the drivers head up over the top of the car. The compromise is a mostly recumbent position where the driver can just barely see over the cockpit/nose. Other compromises are the wings’ AOA and ride height/ground effect and tire rubber hardness. There’s an incredible amount of thought put into the trade offs that come from adjusting one thing or another and in that regard it’s more of a contest of wits, like chess, instead of brute force, like arm wrestling. If the latter is the thrill you’re looking for, maybe look into top fuel drag racing. That shit is purestrain “more is more” although there’s a still a lot of intellectual nuance there. It’s just a lot louder and faster and louder and much louder on top of that.
Actually you know what, watch a tractor pull. I don’t think those dudes have any rules whatsoever.
Judging by the laws in my country, my opinion on this kind of thing is unpopular or unpolitical at least. Here goes anyway: While the cutting edge is dangerous, if two guys want to duel with swords and consent to the obvious risk then fair play to them and RIP to the loser.
Also we have tractor towing in this county and it is freaking awesome. The machines create several thousand horsepower and seem to be made of multiple engines crudely bolted together on something that was once a tractor.
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I'd rather a driver survive and race again than die.
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I think Henri Toivonen's death was kind of fucked up enough that it proved to everyone that hey, maybe let's actually have rules in this race
I mean those cars were going so fast it's very doubtful the drivers really could even watch the road effectively. The were most likely largely going by feel instead of actually seeing things because everything was largely just a blur
I mean those cars were going so fast it's very doubtful the drivers really could even watch the road effectively. The were most likely largely going by feel instead of actually seeing things because everything was largely just a blur
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Like, you can make up all the justifications you want, but there's literally no reason to just throw safety out the window with a "they knew what they were getting into" attitude, because most of the time they in fact don't know what they're getting into because no one thinks that they're going into a race to die that day.
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Sure they haven't planned a specific crash, but they knew it was possible. They're accepting the gamble. You don't sit at a blackjack table, put your chips down and then say "let's agree that I have at least this many at the end, in case I lose some" You do it knowing that there's a good chance it could go horribly wrong, and isn't that what makes it exciting? Or one part of it at least. The skill, and all the other interesting parts are there too, but mortal danger makes me hard.
Or you can dodge the argument and say what about a racing competition where we have batshit insane cars but control them remotely or have an AI do it. We have the tech to achieve this. I still think there's glory in having someone ballsy enough to sit in the death machine rolling the dice, but if we're talking compromise then why not group B rally with the drivers outside of the car?
Or you can dodge the argument and say what about a racing competition where we have batshit insane cars but control them remotely or have an AI do it. We have the tech to achieve this. I still think there's glory in having someone ballsy enough to sit in the death machine rolling the dice, but if we're talking compromise then why not group B rally with the drivers outside of the car?
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I don't watch races to see whether someone will live or die, but see who will win or lose and whether said race will be exciting in that regard.
Also you're blackjack comparsion makes no sense.
Also you're blackjack comparsion makes no sense.
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What I'm saying is no one plans a specific fail event, else they wouldn't have done it, but if you're a grown ass person you're allowed to accept a general setting where the failure event is a distinct possibility. Like drawing cards from a shuffled deck, you can't be in complete control of every variable and you may be competely screwed in one particular instance, but you can still choose to draw from that proverbial deck knowing that you might die.
It's a response to your idea that no one knows what they're going into because no one enters a race to die that day. They enter the race knowing they may, knowing that not everything is under their control and it might kill them. They consent to the possibility of losing their life. That takes balls, and that's why it's amazing.
There's a long list of reasons to appreciate motorsport: the cars, the skill, the competition and how it unfolds both in each race and (where applicable) across championships. The guts to put your life on the line and actually go for it is just another thing to appreciate.
It's a response to your idea that no one knows what they're going into because no one enters a race to die that day. They enter the race knowing they may, knowing that not everything is under their control and it might kill them. They consent to the possibility of losing their life. That takes balls, and that's why it's amazing.
There's a long list of reasons to appreciate motorsport: the cars, the skill, the competition and how it unfolds both in each race and (where applicable) across championships. The guts to put your life on the line and actually go for it is just another thing to appreciate.
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