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Re: Channel Awesome is a massive shitshow

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:09 pm

it's good that people feel safe enough to come forward about this now but goddamn this is fucking awful and I just feel terrible for the victims because jesus christ
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Re: Channel Awesome is a massive shitshow

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:19 pm

it's important to note that re: what was said in the document about the perpetrator, people informed CA management about what happened and they didn't fire him until a year later, and a year after that he was dead so any sincere investigation into the matter became impossible on many layers

and people were only able to put 2 and 2 on this together now because of the very poorly censored chatlogs CA used in their most recent "rebuttal" garbage so they brought this massive shit to light themselves (clearly without meaning to)

this has escalated from some stupid bullshit treatment of creators to not acting on serious allegations from at least two people regarding a person committing sexual assault and I just have no words because that is a level of fucked up I'm not prepared to describe right now
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Re: Channel Awesome is a massive shitshow

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:21 pm

supposedly Lindsay was posting about potential lawyering up and deleted that tweet so it's not clear if she was joking or not but well yeah you see where we're at
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Re: Channel Awesome is a massive shitshow

Post by Mr. Big (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:30 pm

Yeah, I just read that. Holy shit :starity:

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Re: Channel Awesome is a massive shitshow

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:37 pm

This thought from ResetERA is a better summary than what I can formulate
This went from watching a comedic farce of incompetence and arrogance suddenly transform without warning into an absolutely godawful horror show.
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Re: Channel Awesome is a massive shitshow

Post by West Filly (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:38 pm

If they make an "Accusation: Fact:" response to this I will probably have to vomit IRL.
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:43 pm

Suddenly their misogyny is no longer subtext, and is far, far more terrifying than I imagined.
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:49 pm

Orange Fluffy Sheep wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:43 pm
Suddenly their misogyny is no longer subtext, and is far, far more terrifying than I imagined.
I really don't want to speculate on actual names or some shit because that way lies madness and it doesn't accomplish jackshit, but since the management was told about this and knew and ignored it away for about a year at least, they were complicit and we don't know which of the perp's friends were also in the know and ended up being complicit

it's a situation where people are inevitably overwhelmed and shaken and don't have an easy action plan so I don't wanna go full "they knew what they were enabling!!!" but still, the mind boggles and it's hard not to look back and wonder who didn't know, who did know and who actively helped cover it up

this whole increasingly escalating house of horrors has re-contextualized a lot of my Channel Awesome viewing from back in the day, I can tell you that much
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:54 pm

the atmosphere online in the early 2010s wasn't exactly enlightened on language re: sexual assault, women, etc. and I was a dumbo and didn't give a shit but knowing how said jokes and attitudes on CA not only contributed to a shitty work atmosphere for women but an atmosphere that would play cover up for sexual crimes is a rude awakening, to say the least

all the shit I know today about these sorta things sadly doesn't even make me all THAT surprised because it fits too freaking well into the usual patterns you get with messed up bullshit like this but

you know, still, just, damn
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:01 pm

Perrydotto wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:54 pm
you know, still, just, damn
really this is all I can think about, how quickly it went from hahaha they refuted that she said she had a bad time to

this
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Quanta (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:11 pm

As horrifying as this shit is, it's kind of hilarious to me that CA's response has been so inept that they've now turned the suicide of one of their broadcasters from a tragic event that came out of nowhere to said broadcaster being unable to come to terms with what a horrible piece of shit he was.
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Post by Aria Genisi (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:17 pm

jesus fucking christ
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by West Filly (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:45 pm

I want to get off this ride :cry: .
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Pocket (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:59 pm

Very strongly considering offering to donate up to ALL OF MY MONEY to a legal fund to sue Channel Awesome and all of its remaining contributors into the next century. It'd be a more worthwhile thing than I have done with my life thus far.

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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Madeline (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:29 pm

Fucking hell.

E: directed at the situation, not at Pocket
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Pocket (?) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:51 pm



It really speaks volumes that he didn't even feel safe coming forward to people like Todd.

And as for Todd... good God, when he finds out... if he didn't already? Maybe that's why he said he didn't feel comfortable talking about anything.

EDIT: To clarify, one of the "high points" of Todd's months-long feud with Gamergate was telling off some gator scum for having a JewWario tribute avatar, saying that he knew the guy personally and was certain he'd never have supported such a movement, while said gator scum accused him of "speaking for the dead".


Yeeeeaaaahhhhh.... :nngh:

EDIT AGAIN: Oh, and this too...
Arkle wrote:Lindsay once spoke about Justin basically talking her down during a suicidal period in her life. I cannot imagine what she must be feeling right now. Learning this kind of thing about someone you liked is bad enough, but imagine learning that about someone who saved your life.

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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Pocket (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:09 am

Uh oh.





I mean, one of them was Spoony. We knew about that ages ago. But he said "producers", plural, so...

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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:46 am

as said, we are getting into territory where it's sadly very possible that people knew what was going on and were complicit in some way, or even perpetuated fucked up behaviour all on their own

and you gotta think, even those that truly didn't do anything wrong and just took JewWario at face value as the kind, positive person he appeared to be, they gotta be thinking back to all the times they supported him and potentially enabled him simply by carrying his reputation and making him impossible to safely criticize

this will be a really tough thing to swallow for all of them and I truly do hope they take good care of themselves now because this kinda shit is hard as hell to process without going apeshit on yourself
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:14 am

anoter batch of people has left the site: Yup Battle Geek Plus, Screen Crashers, Toons These Days, Bennett the Sage, Bargain Boy, and Gaming Wildlife

we're reaching the nadir on every possible layer

the only creators other than Nostalgia Critic still on Channel Awesome at this point are Cinema Snob, Guru Larry and Blockbuster Buster
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

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reminder: They started the month with ca. 40 (!!!) creators on the site if I'm not mistaken
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:18 am

Holly is looking into lawyering up just to be safe

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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Mad Surge (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:36 am

Goddamn, this went from "haha incompetent assholes get their due" to "we thought we were done opening the sewer but no, there's even more rancid waste pouring out" :nngh:
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Quanta (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:11 am

They're going to get a new guy that dresses like Hitler and reviews films and TV made by Jewish people. First up: The Producers.
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

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They're going to get a new lady who dresses like a judge and reviews the incriminating evidence.

Oh wait, that's not a costume.
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by W.T. Fits (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:52 am

Wikipedia wrote:On April 11, 2018, Channel Awesome addressed a selection of the "most egregious" accusations in a blog post on their website given by some of the former producers, Holly Brown, and the anonymous source. Joe Vargas (Angry Joe), Lawrence Simpson (MasakoX), Bennett White (Bennett the Sage), Eric Rodriguez (ERod/Blockbuster Buster), Gaming Wildlife, Bargain Boy, Battle Geek Plus, Timid Jester, Toons These Days and Brad Jones (The Cinema Snob) parted from the website shortly afterward. Within 24 hours of the site's response blog, all of their remaining associated producers have left the website, besides games reviewer and researcher Larry Bundy Jr. (Guru Larry).
And then there was one.

For my take on all this, I was never really too heavily invested in Channel Awesome before now. Watched a bunch of old Nostalgia Critic episodes a few years ago, thought he had some interesting takes on stuff, and... that was it, basically. Was never really super invested in it beyond that, but that said, this whole thing has been like a matryoshka doll of horrible revelations. It's like just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, nope, you open it up and there's still more in there.

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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Mr. Big (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:57 pm

Just a heads up, DO NOT GO TO THE CHANNEL AWESOME FORUMS.

The mods are gone, and all hell broke loose, with troll accounts posting LOTS of disturbing imagery. I repeat, DO NOT GO THERE.

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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by RudeCyrus (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:36 pm

Christ, I found out what was being posted and I hope CA ends up on a watchlist.

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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

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Mr. Big wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:57 pm
Just a heads up, DO NOT GO TO THE CHANNEL AWESOME FORUMS.

The mods are gone, and all hell broke loose, with troll accounts posting LOTS of disturbing imagery. I repeat, DO NOT GO THERE.
I clicked on the forums, but decided that no good could come from it. Thank you for the warning.

I'd be surprised if Brad Jones left, but I hope he does/has. While rumor is that he left, he's still on the site as of right now.
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

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Mr. Big wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:57 pm
Just a heads up, DO NOT GO TO THE CHANNEL AWESOME FORUMS.

The mods are gone, and all hell broke loose, with troll accounts posting LOTS of disturbing imagery. I repeat, DO NOT GO THERE.
DO NOT TEMPT ME LIKE THAT
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Post by Mr. Big (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:58 pm

I'm not joking, BTW. Violent imagery is being posted on the forums

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Post by Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:12 pm

that's a lot of pictures of dead children, wow

guy only has about 8 different ones per post but spams them 800 times, so they form diagonal stripes as the pattern repeats

like the world's grossest quilt
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Post by Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:13 pm

so when he says gross stuff he means a metric wow of gore
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Mr. Big wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:57 pm
Just a heads up, DO NOT GO TO THE CHANNEL AWESOME FORUMS.

The mods are gone, and all hell broke loose, with troll accounts posting LOTS of disturbing imagery. I repeat, DO NOT GO THERE.
Orange Fluffy Sheep wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:13 pm
so when he says gross stuff he means a metric wow of gore
If the CA forums were a place, they'd be the Robocop version of Detroit, sans Robocop.
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

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Quanta wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:37 pm
If the CA forums were a place, they'd be the Robocop version of Detroit,
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sans Robocop.
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Post by Perrydotto (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:16 pm

Btw Guru Larry is either a Gamergator or sympathizes with them (he makes dumb anti-PC jokes and has apparently expressed gratitude to Kotaku in Action before) and is staying on CA esesentially for "the lulz" so he's profiting off of the negative attention

I like some of his videos but that sorta shit is beyond my line and I'm not gonna watch him again, anyone who thinks it's funny to stay on a sinking ship for the notoriety even though shit about rape has come to light is not my kinda guy
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Perrydotto (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:29 pm

Known big name gator assholes are now bringing the drama back to Dan Olson/Foldable Human (who's been on their shitlist ever since he did some legit investigations into 8chan and fucked up gator stuff)

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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by West Filly (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:33 pm

I don't know why, but for some reason I feel more pissed off about "fake Japanese housewife" than anything else he said there.
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Re: Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show

Post by Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:33 pm

Quanta wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:37 pm
If the CA forums were a place, they'd be the Robocop version of Detroit, sans Robocop.
with just as many exploded dead bodies, natch
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Post by Perrydotto (?) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:08 pm

West Filly wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:33 pm
I don't know why, but for some reason I feel more pissed off about "fake Japanese housewife" than anything else he said there.
Said person is responsible for a lot of agression and harassment of gator-critical people to the point of outright inventing a lot of horrible BS about them complete with """""evidence""""" just to "win"

I don't even wanna spell their name out here because they also have a habit of googling people to call them out on Twitter, this person is toxic to the max and should not be engaged with in any shape or form

Gamergate is fucked up, what else is new
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