Steven Universe: here we are in the Future

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:17 pm

PSA: Today's episode starts at 7pm EST, instead of the usual 730 to account for the longer length.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Wayoshi (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:59 pm

That felt like a suitable series finale, so I can't say a hiatus will feel too bad if there is nothing until the movie in fall.

I mean, White just got a really warped view of herself and that started the entire colonization bullshit. It's resolved, a bit rushed. Anything else left is going to feel like peanuts unless they reveal something about how White got those ideas.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Ghost of Ember (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:14 pm

Yeah, I guess they can explore the progenitor mythos, unless the gems sprung fully formed from naturally occurring gears, levers and pulleys
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Wayoshi (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:22 pm

I guess the series isn't over since Lars & Sadie didn't kiss :P

Also Obsidian was a weird design conceptually. Alexandrite as I recall was an amalgamation of colors. Steven is a colorful guy. That makes a black fire lord?

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Ghost of Ember (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:10 pm

Needs to be the figurative opposite of white diamond, so black obsidian
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:25 pm

So that was an episode... Wasn't it :-I








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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:17 pm

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So, the crew tweeted out this bingo card tonight for the episode.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Wayoshi (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:18 pm

apparently on a Reddit AMA today Sugar said this was written as the series finale, then it was renewed for S6.

I mean, it HAD to have been a series finale in mind, the way the last segment went.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:22 pm

This was a very satisfying finale. I really do wonder where they go from here.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Discord (?) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:56 pm

Hoooollllyyyyyyyyy smooooookeees :twonk: :flutterunsmith:

So I have some mixed feelings on this but they're mostly "this was pretty great" albeit probably too much for a whirlwind rush at the very end, and arguably over the course of the season.

I'd probably be pretty satisfied if the show ended here if I knew it was the ending going into it.

Also, that climactic scene was absolutely unbelievbaly incredible.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Wayoshi (?) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:10 am

the series finale (let's just call it that, heh) was cool but a rushed mess as well. this timeskip will be worth a watch.

CN likes their holiday Mondays. the series finale aired on MLK day, now this on Labor Day.

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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:16 am

This is exciting for sure I just can't wait!

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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:17 pm

The movie is looking to be flipping epic!

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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:50 am

Everyone excited for the movie?

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:04 pm

CN is doing a big marathon in the leadup to the movie in a few hours. Right now, Ruby is a cowboy.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:19 pm

It's a full blown musical. :-D


Villain song was great.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:27 pm

:anticipation: That was pretty good. Ending was a bit too convenient, but the ride was excellent.

We also got a new fusion. Don't look unless you are absolutely prepared for the most amazing thing ever.
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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:29 pm

The villain was a literal Looney Tunes.
My commentary:
song 1 is very Disney
very very Disney opening
blue pearl giggling is life
Stevens new house
song 3 excellent
Pearl music?
off colors!!
ooh Amethyst 1 form!
Steven called the fates
shes definitely from Pink's court...
shes loony toons
bugs bunny as a gem?
oh god!
oh shit
oh... no....
uhm...
shes reset....
theyre all reset...
shes a spinel... and a cartoon
oh dear
Bismuth singing heart
I just realized Bismuths new form
no bad idea
giant pizza cutter
hijinks will ensue
well shyt
the Beatles!
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What an amazing fusion, must be Chance the rapper's character
Ruby and Sapphire Garnet's
oooh
oh dear
hah of course
yay
oh dear
why not call the cluster?
greg lol
wheres Jasper?
uhmmmm are they?
o shit
holy fuck
I'm.... confused
this must be Chance's cast
holy crap their powers tho
Opal!!!
Shes singing!!!
this song tho
uh oh
oh
oooh oooooof oh dear
so sad
how cruel :(
awww
gross Greg
stevennn......
ohhh no....
yay garnet
ok those forms tho!
oh fuck Greg
go Steven
bubble fists
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kiss.... alot of kissing
pfft the Diamonds....
tge diamonds on earth...
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the earth is so disgusting :D
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Zach can still hit those notes

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Ghost of Ember (?) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:43 am

Here's my thoughts:
Spinel is a visual treat. I doubt we'll see her again but the increased budget really shows in her antics. I didn't see the amnesia plot coming and I'm glad they kept it well under wraps.

Best singing voice goes to Bismuth.

Surprising amount of Grearl fuel in this despite the backlash from Mr. Greg. Speaking of, Steg was amazing.

Steven Universe continues to lowkey be about abuse and the abuse cycle. Granny White Diamond was a Narc Mom, Rosie was trying but replicated a lot of abuse tactics she learned from Narc Mom and fellow abused elder siblings. You could do a Golden Child/Scapegoat reading with regards to Steven and Spinel if you wanted to. Spinel spoke to me a lot in a way Steven never did. The misplaced rage and explosions of suspicion and anger are familiar to me. The fact that Spinel spun herself out as she realized she would never get the catharsis she needed from beating up on Steven was probably the most powerful moment in the movie for me.

There's probably something to be said about Spinel ending up with the Diamonds, former perpetrators of abuse who are trying to reform but with whom Steven still needs to set boundaries, but its something I have to mull over for a bit more.

I liked that the message of the movie was pretty much stated outright: There is no happily ever after. Times of peace and wonderful times exist, but there's always going to be more challenges and you have to keep growing and overcoming them.

They also managed to make Top Man from Megaman 3 a worthy final boss so kudos.

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by Adiwan (?) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:53 pm

It's awful.
The message is awful. The character regression is awful.
The plot structure is awful. The pacing is awful. The resolution is awful.
The villain doesn't fit visually.

Making the characters regress to their initial state makes the story feel a retread of previous episodes in a bad way.
It hinders the NEW things that could be.
This also affects the pacing. The big injector is clearly a threat and it was addressed when it was "convenient".
Steven stumbles around without even mentioning that weapon.
I cannot stress out how BAD the diamonds are with their obsession with Pink and it gets worse when Spinelle accepted
their offer to stay with them. Spinelle wanted friendship, they wanted an image of the past. And it is the worst message.
It's like going from a failed relationship to another on the horizon that can be even worse due to incompatible relationship reasons (or their foundation of).
Spinelle as a rubber hose Mickey Mouse design has no place to the show's visual language despite having a lot of diverse and unique designs. The other characters walk and move more grounded and obey more the laws of physics than anything Spinelle does.
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Post by Perrydotto (?) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:00 pm

I really liked it, basically every single part of it, and if this would be the last thing they made with Steven Universe I would feel it was a worthy end.
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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:25 pm

I've got Independent Together on loop. It's my fave, even tho Steg makes me a little uncomfortable. I can enjoy listening to it without visuals

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:54 pm

:allears: Best song.


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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:38 am

It's very catchy for sure. Her VA gave her such an old fashioned accent

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Post by Strangething (?) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:28 pm

Drift Away breaks my damn heart.

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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:37 pm

Yes. It's so sad, poor Spinel

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Re: Steven Universe: Heart of the Gems "Did you bismuth me?"

Post by The Doctor (?) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Rose was an asshole.

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Post by CorvusCaw (?) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:39 pm

Liked the songs. Didn't like the new fusion. Got "Magical Mystery Cure" vibes from the plot. Was not in board with the resolution. Wished Lapis and Connie had bigger roles in it.

I did like the songs though
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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:53 am

Yeah the fusion made me vaguely uncomfortable
I wasn't not happy with how flirtatious Steg was towards Pearl. Steven is 16, and with how he acted I was like borderline eeeeggggghhhhhh. If he didn't have the torn up shirt showing beefcake muscles, I might be ok. And tone down the Universe Charm cuz..... Ew
His duet with opal was awesome tho, the song is one of my favorite

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Post by The Ghost of Ember (?) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:10 am

I don't think they really thought through the implications beyond wanting to do an 'eep opp ork ah ah' 50's Elvis style spectacle love ballad with a more modern message.

Apparently the two primary singers are in a band together, so it was also likely trying to replicate the band's style.
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Post by diribigal (?) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:14 pm

Adiwan wrote:
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The villain doesn't fit visually...Spinelle as a rubber hose Mickey Mouse design has no place to the show's visual language despite having a lot of diverse and unique designs. The other characters walk and move more grounded and obey more the laws of physics than anything Spinelle does.
I read that more as a visual metaphor than anything else. Spinel's style is certainly outdated and out of place, etc.
The message is awful.
I thought a lot of this was good, personally. Rose and Steven sort of discarding people when they're no longer useful is a thing that Steven had to re-grow out of. Steven telling Spinel she could learn to love again and was worthy of love. Spinel realizing she needed more of a fresh start to get out of bad habits.
BAD the diamonds are with their obsession with Pink and it gets worse when Spinelle accepted
their offer to stay with them
Definitely agreed about that stuff.

Like Adiwan, I found it a little oddly paced. But I also liked it on the whole and it had a lot of good music/sound design. (And Spinel's voice was pretty darn good.)
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Post by Sailor Yue (?) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:23 pm

Her old timey accent was amazing and fit well considering how out of touch she was. It's like if you took someone from a 1930's talkey movie and put them in the real world.

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Post by West Filly (?) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:32 pm

Rebecca Sugar mentioned that when they first had the idea for Steg it was for a battle of the bands episode where she was going to call him...

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His name is Buff McLargefuse.

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Post by The Doctor (?) » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:45 pm

New opening shown at NYCCC


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