The Round Stable

I always wondered, has any filmmakers ever reacted to having their movies being featured on MST3K? Were they flattered? Or insulted?

Sandy Frank got so mad about his localizations getting lambasted on MST3K that some of the movies he localized are nearly impossible to find episodes of anymore because he refused to renew the license even for a single rerun.

Mr. Big wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:35 am

I always wondered, has any filmmakers ever reacted to having their movies being featured on MST3K? Were they flattered? Or insulted?

As far as I know the films were licensed by MST3K to show them in full because the parody clause or fair use don't cover it.
They got their money's worth.

Gloomy Rube wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:05 am

Sandy Frank got so mad about his localizations getting lambasted on MST3K that some of the movies he localized are nearly impossible to find episodes of anymore because he refused to renew the license even for a single rerun.

lmao

Mr. Big wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:35 am

I always wondered, has any filmmakers ever reacted to having their movies being featured on MST3K? Were they flattered? Or insulted?

Some DVDs include an interview with the director or a cast member where they reminisce how the movie got made and their reactions to MST3K, so at least some are OK with it. Sometimes the movie is so old that the people involved are long retired and don't take it personally anymore.

They interviewed David Worth, director of "Warrior of the Lost World" (featuring Megaweapon and the Paper Chase Guy) and his story of making the film is really interesting IIRC. Worth was a cinematographer for directors like Clint Eastwood at the time, he hadn't directed a feature himself, and one day some Italian producers called up and said "We want to crank out a movie in X weeks, the budget is X dollars, interested in directing?" and he was like sure, that's an opportunity. So he knew from the start this wouldn't be Citizen Kane; you work with what you're given in the time allotted. Example: during shooting, the producers called up and said "Fred Williamson is vacationing in Italy and he wants an excuse to stay longer, put Fred Williamson in your movie" and that's why Fred Williamson is there.

So Worth acknowledges that WotLW is awful and deserving of mockery (and he thinks MST3K did a good job doing it) but his attitude is that he was young, it was a learning experience and the fact it got finished at all was an achievement.

i'm tempted to draw a klk-lwa spectrum and put trigger's animes on it

the only problem with this spectrum is i can't fit inferno cop on it

Mechanical Ape wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:39 am

Some DVDs include an interview with the director or a cast member where they reminisce how the movie got made and their reactions to MST3K, so at least some are OK with it. Sometimes the movie is so old that the people involved are long retired and don't take it personally anymore.

They interviewed David Worth, director of "Warrior of the Lost World" (featuring Megaweapon and the Paper Chase Guy) and his story of making the film is really interesting IIRC. Worth was a cinematographer for directors like Clint Eastwood at the time, he hadn't directed a feature himself, and one day some Italian producers called up and said "We want to crank out a movie in X weeks, the budget is X dollars, interested in directing?" and he was like sure, that's an opportunity. So he knew from the start this wouldn't be Citizen Kane; you work with what you're given in the time allotted. Example: during shooting, the producers called up and said "Fred Williamson is vacationing in Italy and he wants an excuse to stay longer, put Fred Williamson in your movie" and that's why Fred Williamson is there.

So Worth acknowledges that WotLW is awful and deserving of mockery (and he thinks MST3K did a good job doing it) but his attitude is that he was young, it was a learning experience and the fact it got finished at all was an achievement.

Pfft this is great.

I recall hearing that Roger Corman hated that his movies were featured on the show, although I don't remember exactly where I found it.

DaikatunaRevengeance wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:11 pm

the only problem with this spectrum is i can't fit inferno cop on it

it's always horny but comfortably

true, inferno cop had a sex scene at the end

whenever anyone talks about inferno cop I think about axe cop so I was very confused by that response for a while

inferno cop and axe cop have similar weird energy, but axe cop had a budget

I feel like singing from the rooftops while I also jump across them and take down criminals!

Mr. Big wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:01 pm

Pfft this is great.

I recall hearing that Roger Corman hated that his movies were featured on the show, although I don't remember exactly where I found it.

no, wait

Now link it to the Tommy Westphall Universe.

And Luluco links to Panty & Stocking

a friend brought up that gridman might connect to transformers

LWA is a connected to a few more than that, of the top of my head, at least Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Dinotopia and Pawn Stars

oh and Fantasia too. Also a TV played Inferno Cop at one point like in BNA, so that should be connected too

oh my god

wait a minute, we can connect the triggerverse to the tommy westphall universe using sabrina the teenage witch

you got your wish fizzbuzz

putting that aside and returning to trigger

you can connect Luluco and Promare using TTGL.

How you ask? Because Luluco's plot eventually turns into a parody of TTGL and Promare's main character is basically Kamina.

DaikatunaRevengeance wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:38 am

wait a minute, we can connect the triggerverse to the tommy westphall universe using sabrina the teenage witch

incredible findings here

SlateSlabrock wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:19 am

Corman basically said "Let's see YOU do better".

Okay, yeah, this does confirm he really hate that MST3K lampooned his movies.

Says the guy whose films are 75% stock footage.

lmao

Roger Corman's terrible, his movies are bad, and he should go to bed

which mst3k episode should i watch

oh, i meant one with that guy's movies

Try Swamp Diamonds, it's not sci-fi but it's a pretty good representative of his product.

I wanna be clear: Roger Corman has talent of a kind. He was a genius at making films quick and under budget, which was a really valuable skill in the days of drive-in double features. The second feature didn't have to be any good because by this point the audience is making out and not watching the screen, but you had to have something. So his ability to make passable films on time, on the cheap and with a McDonald's-like consistency was beneficial for business, if not for art.

From the Corman movies I've seen, I would say they're not GOOD, but they're LESS BAD than they might have been under a less competent filmmaker. They're functional, like particle board.

cool cool

Mechanical Ape wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:37 pm

Try Swamp Diamonds, it's not sci-fi but it's a pretty good representative of his product.

I wanna be clear: Roger Corman has talent of a kind. He was a genius at making films quick and under budget, which was a really valuable skill in the days of drive-in double features. The second feature didn't have to be any good because by this point the audience is making out and not watching the screen, but you had to have something. So his ability to make passable films on time, on the cheap and with a McDonald's-like consistency was beneficial for business, if not for art.

From the Corman movies I've seen, I would say they're not GOOD, but they're LESS BAD than they might have been under a less competent filmmaker. They're functional, like particle board.

Roger Corman made a giant woman movie where the giant woman has no agency so I refuse to acknowledge any talent.