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G5 Rumors - 2020? FiM ending in S9?

Post by Wayoshi (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:59 pm

Apparently the same source who leaked the rest of S7 back in October is back with more Hasbro internals. Take everything with a grain of salt, but let's discuss it here.

I hate to link 4chan, but it is the primary source for anything underground like this: https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/thread/31546274

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Post by Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:10 pm

Eh. I'm only putting a token amount of trust in all this, but I don't think what's presented is bad or anything. Could be cool if somehow it ends up being real.
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Post by Dal (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:29 pm

My only hope is that they end the series well. I don't want the movie destroying everything from G4 to make room for G5.
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Re: G5 Rumors - 2020? FiM ending in S9?

Post by The Doctor (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:29 pm

The G5 stuff just sounds really, really weird...


Why change the races of the Mane 6? If you're going that different, why not make all new characters? Twilight as an Earth Pony? That'd be a tough sell.

And if they're changing they're races, I guess it's not a continuation of G4, which seems an odd choice given G4's success.

That being said, it sounds like they are in the earliest concept stages of making G5. Probably not even up to the point of having a show-bible to work on. We know from the G4 bible that a lot changed.


If the 2nd movie is the bridge, are they seriously going to flashpoint Equestria? Credit for the big risk I guess.

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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:11 pm

All this talk about "stunting" the Mane 6 down to 3 as well as CGI animation has me pretty antsy.

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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:20 pm

Possible S9 outline:

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Post by SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:40 pm

The timeline stuff seems very much up in the air right now, but the possibilities in the leaks so far are:
  • Short season 9 early 2019, G5 launch movie at the end of 2019
  • 26-episode season 9 early/mid 2019, G5 launch movie early 2020 followed by TV series late 2020
  • Mystery season 9, end the series with a movie in late 2019, G5 launch movie late 2020, followed by TV series early 2021

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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:55 pm

Not going to post all of this directly, but when talking about G5...
-body styles may no longer be uniform
-they seem to not know what to do with AJ at all - a lot of talk about making her small / an underdog / bad girl type, get rid of all the barn/country "hick-ish" association
-as far as changing Mane 6 pony types, a lot of "don't change characters that don't need fixing", but some really seem to want to push a total shake-up, such as Fluts as a unicorn or Pinkie as a pegasus
-cutie marks: that they exist is "key", but beyond that could see a complete overhaul, e.g. the symbol isn't "directly tied into a defining personality trait".
This is all extremely preliminary, just tossing around ideas at a summit basically.

What I really wanted out of a G5 was continuing G4 literally a generation later. Like that comic way back in the day with the Cake kids. Everyone loves the universe Lauren created, why rehash / "reboot" it?

Also it sure reads like to me they want to move out of Flash / the show's current animation style after FiM. :-I

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Post by Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:03 pm

Sooooo Toonboom? Or is this going to be 3D CGI?

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Post by SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:09 pm

Juju&Lulu wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:03 pm
Sooooo Toonboom? Or is this going to be 3D CGI?
If I'm reading it correctly, still 2D for G5. Seems like Boulder Media will be the studio for the next gen.

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Post by Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:12 pm

Sweet, that's who I called doing it. I mean why buy an entire animation studio just to have them do some Equestria Girls shorts?

Some of the EQG were really slick so I'm fine with this change.

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Post by Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:13 pm

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Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:55 pm
What I really wanted out of a G5 was continuing G4 literally a generation later. Like that comic way back in the day with the Cake kids. Everyone loves the universe Lauren created, why rehash / "reboot" it?
I've thought a spinoff/continuation starring Spike and the CMC grown up would be neat, but if MLP's creative staff have some hot ideas then I'm down with checking them out. Sure, Lauren Faust did a great job making the characters and world, but what if someone else has something cool to share? G4's well has proven to be very deep, but it's not infinite, so I'd rather start on something fresh than hit rock bottom with what we've got.

Main thing I hope for is that either this movie that's being tossed around is already decently well into production, or that Hasbro will hold the fuck up and let things get developed properly instead of trying to turn another movie out in two years.
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Post by SigmasonicX (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:01 pm

Well, episodes 6, 7, and 13 of season 8 are being leaked. So watch out for that.
Note that they don't have background music and have incomplete foley.

EDIT: Whoops, just had this thread open and didn't realize another one was made for season 8.

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Post by Bremen (?) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:34 pm

Wayoshi wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:55 pm
What I really wanted out of a G5 was continuing G4 literally a generation later. Like that comic way back in the day with the Cake kids. Everyone loves the universe Lauren created, why rehash / "reboot" it?
Once upon a time, I was all for this (and the Slice of life fan comic you mention was absolute gold). But at this point (let alone after 2 more seasons) I think they might have done most of what they can with the "world" of FiM, not just the characters. I feel a real reboot, maybe with heavy inspiration (sort of like the Battlestar Galactica reboot) might work better by opening up more creative space.

Friendship is Magic was and is a treasure, but no matter how good the base you can't keep making original stuff out of it forever.

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Post by Adiwan (?) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:30 am

I really hoped that the show would reach season 10 before thinking about rebooting it.
I mean MLP FiM doesn't have to run out its welcome like the Simpsons but reaching a two-digit number would have been nice.
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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:32 pm

Just a note, there is S9 premiere concept art as part of the megaleak. But I think at this juncture even if you spoil yourself out, there's no reason to discuss something that won't come until 2019. :pinkieshrug:

I mean I'll make a S9 Spoiler Station thread now if I really have to, but if everyone agrees to let it lie for now... I'd rather not.

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Post by Soft Snow (?) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:28 pm

I'm glad to see they are sticking with the Mane 6, two of each kind, formula. But this time around they are giving us two Spike characters.

I figured they were going to change Applejack. The way she was set up they couldn't do much with her story or toy wise. She only had like what five episodes centered on her? As a character she was pretty much set with enough life experience she didn't have much growing to do.

I feel like G5 isn't going to be a long or as popular as G4. My worse case scenario is that G5 will get three seasons of 65 episodes, then they will lunch G6 in eight years.
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Post by Applepie2017 (?) » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:43 pm

Adiwan wrote:
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I really hoped that the show would reach season 10 before thinking about rebooting it.
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Post by Yuudachi (?) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:36 am

>tiny wings on hooves

WTF

also, wtf did they do to AJ?
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Post by drunkill (?) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:29 am

They killed her. Didn't you read the email?
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Post by Dal (?) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:33 am

I don't know what I find more disconcerting: their attitude towards AJ, or the end of FiM.
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Post by Juju&Lulu (?) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:52 am

Pretty sure it comes as no surprise to anyone that Applejack underperforms with the target demo. The people who like her the most are 30+somethings who don't go out and buy brusahbles.

Not surprised she's gonna get the most reworked for the next incarnation.

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Post by Yuudachi (?) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:47 pm

I honestly didn't like the hicks jab.

(AJ was my fave before Rarity winning over as best horse thanks to that great episode in Season 2)
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Post by The Doctor (?) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:07 pm

:ponder: wonder how they'll handle Alicorns in G5. There's no mention of Celestia and Luna making the jump. Meghan seems to be heavily involved in it, and she never seemed to like them, having them get captured constantly and never really letting them show off their power. I get the feeling she resented having to deal with these super-powerful characters, and I wonder if she's giving them the axe.

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Post by SigmasonicX (?) » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:24 pm

The Doctor wrote:
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:ponder: wonder how they'll handle Alicorns in G5. There's no mention of Celestia and Luna making the jump. Meghan seems to be heavily involved in it, and she never seemed to like them, having them get captured constantly and never really letting them show off their power. I get the feeling she resented having to deal with these super-powerful characters, and I wonder if she's giving them the axe.
I have no doubt that if Celestia and Luna are in G5, they won't be characters that the heroes have ready access to. Just like Twilight being made an earth pony, this will help balance out the heroes more for what appears to be a greater focus on adventure stories.

I do think Twilight will become an alicorn at some point, if only as a temporary friendship power up, because toys.

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Post by Dal (?) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:39 am

I'll give leaks something: they really lit a fire under the fandom. I haven't see it this active in awhile. Too bad everything is tainted by the show's impending end.
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Post by Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:13 am

Surely everyone knew the end would come eventually, right? At least in this case there's evidence for a fifth generation instead of Hasbro just having MLP vanish into obscurity like what happened throughout G3-3.5.
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Post by Bremen (?) » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:17 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:13 am
Surely everyone knew the end would come eventually, right? At least in this case there's evidence for a fifth generation instead of Hasbro just having MLP vanish into obscurity like what happened throughout G3-3.5.
On the other hand... I don't watch the show because I think ponies are intrinsically better than other characters/settings (some people might, and that's fine). I watch it because it has great characters and a cool fantasy setting that's not just another ripoff of Tolkien. I'll definitely give G5 a chance, but it's very much a "will lightning strike twice" situation for me. I don't know that it will contain the things I like about FiM and, given the tone of some of the leaked stuff, I'm not exactly optimistic (though I could certainly end up surprised).

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Post by West Filly (?) » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:58 pm

Judging by the amount of references they make to meetings, particularly the mention of an 11+ hour Applejack discussion and lists of "no one likes, everyone likes", It appears that they're trying to create a new generation by committee.

I wonder how this process contrasts with the process used to create G4? My assumption, although based on very little, is that Faust was able to dictate a lot more over the final product than anyone seems to here.
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Post by Wayoshi (?) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:10 pm

A fresh set of emails have leaked from the same source. A summary from the infamous 4chan:

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Post by PonyHag714 (?) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:26 pm

Maybe I'll feel differently later, but I can't work up any enthusiasm at all for G5. :unenthused:
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Post by Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:31 pm

I have not looked at anything new today beyond the above screenshot, so I don't know if there's something new that is majorly dogshit or whatever, but I'm still feeling optimistic for G5 to do something fresh.
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Post by The Doctor (?) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:47 am

I'd be happier if Meghan weren't the showrunner. I thought she was heading up the new Allspark studio.

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Post by West Filly (?) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:06 am

On a scale of 0 to 10 where 0 is only sickeningly cute women and 10 is all the letters of the LGBTQphabet represented with varying personalities, just how far are they going to "reflect the diversity of gender" ???
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Post by Applepie2017 (?) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:32 am

I will be 47 when G5 is out in 2020
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Post by PhoolCat (?) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:03 am

West Filly wrote:
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On a scale of 0 to 10 where 0 is only sickeningly cute women and 10 is all the letters of the LGBTQphabet represented with varying personalities, just how far are they going to "reflect the diversity of gender" ???
they actually mean “there’s not enough straight white men!”, so about -11
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Post by West Filly (?) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:12 am

If they make pinkie pie a man but don't give him a camp voice it'd be golden
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Post by Dexanth (?) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:37 pm

Stuntcasting G5 is basically where my hope for it has waned a lot.

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