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allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:31 pm
by Dragoness
seriously it's a stupid rule

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:42 pm
by The Doctor
It's a stupid ship.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:46 pm
by Dragoness
you're a stupid ship

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:51 pm
by The Ghost of Ember
Most ships are stupid.

Throw my hat in with the free Twilestia and Lunashy or whoever they ship Luna with these days crowd. I'm not going to vigorously defend because I can't bring myself to give that much of a shit but the rule is suspect at best.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:23 pm
by Weird Autumn
Ones upon a time Luna dated fluttershy and then the mods banned it the end

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:27 pm
by Angel Beat
let them awoo

*ahem*

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it legalised.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:28 pm
by Orange Fluffy Sheep
Oh my god stop shitposting in DPC, we almost had a shitpost-free DPC for one whole day.

But yeah, Twilestia, Twiluna, Big Luna, Discoshy, Rarilestia, whatever, I feel like the ban is based on an extremely negative reading of the material. A large part of the ban (IIRC, the actual argument kinda... is gone) was on the basis that the relationship is imbalanced, largely because one half is ages old and usually a sovereign ruler of the nation. This always seemed flimsy to me, like, in a picture of Twilight and Celestia snuggling, are we to take the emotional and power dynamic between them to be so inherent and so unhealthy that it permeates an image that, if it had Pinkie Pie instead, would be fine?

It always seemed flimsy to me.

Also official material never seemed that concerned over it. Someone post that Luna kissing Mac thing from the comics for me.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:33 pm
by West Filly
It's very naughty for a mentor to date their student.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:48 pm
by Factory Factory
West Filly wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:33 pm
It's very naughty for a mentor to date their student.
Exactly. Which is why we should allow Twiluna and Rarilestia instead.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:52 pm
by West Filly
Or we could explore the taboo amore.

Friends did it.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:00 pm
by Perrydotto
I'm fine with Twilestia as long as people don't post stuff that actually veers into unhealthy power dynamics (which is what the ban was about in the first place) and admittedly I trust people to handle that responsibility. Don't be a butt about it and it's fine, IMO.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:26 pm
by Jill
would you tell a real person it's creepy that they're in a happy relationship with someone who has more control over them than vice versa?

what it boils down to, i think, is that both characters involved in any ship are portrayed as consenting and not being coaxed or tied down by such power dynamics

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:10 am
by Big Boss
I'll allow it

just don't ruin it.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:32 am
by Angel Beat
Thanks Boss, you're the best. :3:

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:58 am
by Factory Factory
Thank you, Boss. We'll make you proud try not to disappoint too severely.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:22 pm
by Chaos Sonic
A corollary: shipping in EqG between students and teachers/faculty should still be out, imo.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:27 pm
by Perrydotto
Chaos Sonic wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:22 pm
A corollary: shipping in EqG between students and teachers/faculty should still be out, imo.
For sure, since that's a very non-magical age difference. Adults and teens shouldn't be shipped together at any rate.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:37 pm
by Big Boss
Chaos Sonic wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:22 pm
A corollary: shipping in EqG between students and teachers/faculty should still be out, imo.
Yes, agreed.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:43 pm
by The Doctor
Still think Celestia and twilight is incredibly creepy. The magical age thing never really bothered me with Celestia ships, but the Teacher/Student thing is just creepy.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:34 pm
by ixnay
I still think it’s creepy but as long as it’s contained to shipping threads that I can easily ignore I don’t care if other people like it.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:28 pm
by Weird Autumn
I think it'd be creepier if Celestia's teaching style wasn't mostly pretty hands-off in the show. I feel like around the point where she becomes a princess it's probably fair to say Twilight has self-actualized and graduated from friendship school and done it all pretty far out from under Celestia's wing so it's not really a stretch to portray them as something closer to equals.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:10 pm
by Dexanth
TwiLestia is a sin because Tuna and Chrysalestia are the best this is a fact!!!!1111eleven

(Aka yay let the horsies date but don't be a butt about it!)

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:25 am
by SlateSlabrock
The Doctor wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:43 pm
Still think Celestia and twilight is incredibly creepy. The magical age thing never really bothered me with Celestia ships, but the Teacher/Student thing is just creepy.
Yeah, Twilight shouldn't be shipped with anyone because she's everyone's teacher.

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Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:57 am
by West Filly
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Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:30 am
by PhoolCat
West Filly wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:57 am
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I came here to post serious about power dynamics etc. with validity but this image destroyed me.

...especially Rarity’s face.

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:32 am
by PhoolCat
I trusted you all with not making standard shipping creepy when it was first unbanned, so I know I can trust you all with this. :pcstare:

Re: allow twilestia

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:10 pm
by Cthulhu Inc
BIG LUNA